Kyle Walker

[Saddleworth2]

Arf!

Since taking over the club, this "bang average, mid table director with a massively overinflated reputation" has taken Spurs from a perennial lower mid table club that had fallen light years behind the top clubs to one that is now firmly established among the top six at least - and now starting to challenge seriously for major honours. He has done so while battling against overwhelming financial odds in the other clubs' favour.

Besides the first team, he has overseen the transformation of the club's academy from one that was unproductive and woefully neglected under Sugar to one that is now among the best, and certainly among the most productive in the Premier League. He built a new £75m training centre that is also among the best in the country. And the team will move into a superb new stadium just over a year from now. All of this while keeping the club on the financial straight and narrow.

Mocking Levy for some poor signings is failing to see the wood for the trees. Of course there have been setbacks and failures during his time at the club. But the overall consequence of his leadership is a club that is in a far, far better state than it was and has far, far better future prospects than it did when he took over.

Okay, so you don't like Levy. Fair enough. But to dismiss him as you have is just plain silliness.



Just to be a little less cavalier with the figures, the actual prices were:

Lamela - £26m, rising to £30m
Janssen - £17m
Son - £22m
Sissioko - £30m

I agree with you. Its a really impressive improvement on where they were. Poch has made a big contribution too. The big question for me though is can they maintain it and actually start to win some serious trophies? I think we will go to another level and Chelsea will continue to incrementally improve. Liverpool? Think they will plateau, Rags and Arsenal are going backwards. Spuds will be top three I think for the next few years but can they win the title or the CL? No I don't think so.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Lamela - £26m, rising to £30m
Janssen - £17m
Son - £22m
Sissioko - £30m

I'm surprised Son was being highlighted as a particularly bad buy tbh. 22m isn't a huge amount in the market in recent years and whilst he isn't absolutely incredible, he looks fairly decent to me. Certainly he seems to make a significant contribution for them. I imagine we've made a few buys at that kind of level that have worked out much worse.

 

[Hungarian blue]

I'm surprised Son was being highlighted as a particularly bad buy tbh. 22m isn't a huge amount in the market in recent years and whilst he isn't absolutely incredible, he looks fairly decent to me. Certainly he seems to make a significant contribution for them. I imagine we've made a few buys at that kind of level that have worked out much worse.

Absolutely, Son was a more than decent buy.

 

[domalino]

I'm surprised Son was being highlighted as a particularly bad buy tbh. 22m isn't a huge amount in the market in recent years and whilst he isn't absolutely incredible, he looks fairly decent to me. Certainly he seems to make a significant contribution for them. I imagine we've made a few buys at that kind of level that have worked out much worse.

I didn't highlight him as a bad buy. I pointed to the fact they've got a bench (which Son is on) that costs well over £100m when someone said how brilliant they were for having a starting XI that only cost £100m.

 

[domalino]

Arf!

Since taking over the club, this "bang average, mid table director with a massively overinflated reputation" has taken Spurs from a perennial lower mid table club that had fallen light years behind the top clubs to one that is now firmly established among the top six at least - and now starting to challenge seriously for major honours. He has done so while battling against overwhelming financial odds in the other clubs' favour.

Besides the first team, he has overseen the transformation of the club's academy from one that was unproductive and woefully neglected under Sugar to one that is now among the best, and certainly among the most productive in the Premier League. He built a new £75m training centre that is also among the best in the country. And the team will move into a superb new stadium just over a year from now. All of this while keeping the club on the financial straight and narrow.

Mocking Levy for some poor signings is failing to see the wood for the trees. Of course there have been setbacks and failures during his time at the club. But the overall consequence of his leadership is a club that is in a far, far better state than it was and has far, far better future prospects than it did when he took over.

Okay, so you don't like Levy. Fair enough. But to dismiss him as you have is just plain silliness.



Just to be a little less cavalier with the figures, the actual prices were:

Lamela - £26m, rising to £30m
Janssen - £17m
Son - £22m
Sissioko - £30m

He's done a good job at Spurs, but he doesn't warrant the mythical transfer genius reputation he's created for himself. Which was very clearly my point, and when I referred to him as an average mid table director it was (like the rest of my entire comment) in relation to his transfer dealings.

As for Spurs academy, Pochettino is the only reason it's getting attention now, Spurs have produced good players for years, but it took Pochettino to use it, and I dare say that with the exception of the players who've broken through under him, things will go back to normal when he leaves. Similarly, Pochettino is the only reason they are challenging (although only Spurs would be credited with challenging for the title after finishing 9 and 11 points behind the winners) major honours, and when he goes they will fall back again, probably with nothing to show for it.

 

[BillyShears]

Arf!

Since taking over the club, this "bang average, mid table director with a massively overinflated reputation" has taken Spurs from a perennial lower mid table club that had fallen light years behind the top clubs to one that is now firmly established among the top six at least - and now starting to challenge seriously for major honours. He has done so while battling against overwhelming financial odds in the other clubs' favour.

Besides the first team, he has overseen the transformation of the club's academy from one that was unproductive and woefully neglected under Sugar to one that is now among the best, and certainly among the most productive in the Premier League. He built a new £75m training centre that is also among the best in the country. And the team will move into a superb new stadium just over a year from now. All of this while keeping the club on the financial straight and narrow.

Mocking Levy for some poor signings is failing to see the wood for the trees. Of course there have been setbacks and failures during his time at the club. But the overall consequence of his leadership is a club that is in a far, far better state than it was and has far, far better future prospects than it did when he took over.

Okay, so you don't like Levy. Fair enough. But to dismiss him as you have is just plain silliness.



Just to be a little less cavalier with the figures, the actual prices were:

Lamela - £26m, rising to £30m
Janssen - £17m
Son - £22m
Sissioko - £30m

Actually. That's not the point being made as far as I can tell.

The point is simple. Levy isn't some Machiavellian transfer genius. He doesn't have special powers at a negotiating table. He's just another chairman of a SELLING CLUB. Selling clubs sell their best players as he has done. People getting themselves all hot under the collar about what Walker is going to cost miss the point. The only time his reputation will matter to the bigger kids in the playground is when he actually STOPS selling players. Until then ... I daresay the likes of Txiki could give less of a fuck about the guy. They'll get Walker because they know Levy will sell. End of story.

 

[Marvin]

He's done a good job at Spurs, but he doesn't warrant the mythical transfer genius reputation he's created for himself. Which was very clearly my point, and when I referred to him as an average mid table director it was (like the rest of my entire comment) in relation to his transfer dealings.

As for Spurs academy, Pochettino is the only reason it's getting attention now, Spurs have produced good players for years, but it took Pochettino to use it, and I dare say that with the exception of the players who've broken through under him, things will go back to normal when he leaves. Similarly, Pochettino is the only reason they are challenging (although only Spurs would be credited with challenging for the title after finishing 9 and 11 points behind the winners) major honours, and when he goes they will fall back again, probably with nothing to show for it.

Spurs look solid to me. I don't think managerial change is imminent, but if it was they'd be able to appoint a really top coach.

 

[domalino]

Spurs look solid to me. I don't think managerial change is imminent, but if it was they'd be able to appoint a really top coach.

Like who? They pay Pochettino less than Everton pay Koeman. They won't pay for a top coach, their only chance of replacing Pochettino is if a smaller club like Southampton manage to find another gem and Spurs can bully their way in.

As for solid, lets see how long it takes for all their players to start leaving when they decide that coming close to trophies for half the wages they could be earning isn't that great. Walker is leaving us and his £60,000 a week wage will defintiely have something to do with it. Alderweireld is demanding 2x his wages and running his contract down.

 

[Rolee]

DLIAC

 

[Marvin]

Like who? They pay Pochettino less than Everton pay Koeman. They won't pay for a top coach, their only chance of replacing Pochettino is if a smaller club like Southampton manage to find another gem and Spurs can bully their way in.

I have no idea what Pochettino earns but I see no rationale as to why Spurs wouldn't pay the going rate for a top coach should they need to replace him.