Legalising Cannabis

its legal in my house.
And genuinely - there cannot ever be a strong rational argument against when you can buy drink and fags.
Weed should be controlled - because kids are not sensible enough to self regulate. But the Dutch model seems to work just fine
 
simonk said:
And genuinely - there cannot ever be a strong rational argument against when you can buy drink and fags.
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That's an irrational argument to use as if alcohol & nicotine were discovered tomorrow, they too would be illegal as we know far more about the long term affects of both. Just because they are legal doesn't mean we should go ahead & legalise other harmful substances.

This is from the Royal College of Psychiatrists...

Mental health problems

There is growing evidence that people with serious mental illness, including depression and psychosis, are more likely to use cannabis or have used it for long periods of time in the past. Regular use of the drug has appeared to double the risk of developing a psychotic episode or long-term schizophrenia. However, does cannabis cause depression and schizophrenia or do people with these disorders use it as a medication?

Over the past few years, research has strongly suggested that there is a clear link between early cannabis use and later mental health problems in those with a genetic vulnerability - and that there is a particular issue with the use of cannabis by adolescents.


Depression

A study following 1600 Australian school-children, aged 14 to 15 for seven years, found that while children who use cannabis regularly have a significantly higher risk of depression, the opposite was not the case - children who already suffered from depression were not more likely than anyone else to use cannabis. However, adolescents who used cannabis daily were five times more likely to develop depression and anxiety in later life.


Schizophrenia

Three major studies followed large numbers of people over several years, and showed that those people who use cannabis have a higher than average risk of developing schizophrenia. If you start smoking it before the age of 15, you are 4 times more likely to develop a psychotic disorder by the time you are 26. They found no evidence of self-medication. It seemed that, the more cannabis someone used, the more likely they were to develop symptoms.

Why should teenagers be particularly vulnerable to the use of cannabis? No one knows for certain, but it may be something to do with brain development. The brain is still developing in the teenage years – up to the age of around 20, in fact. A massive process of ‘neural pruning’ is going on. This is rather like streamlining a tangled jumble of circuits so they can work more effectively. Any experience, or substance, that affects this process has the potential to produce long-term psychological effects.

Recent research in Europe, and in the UK, has suggested that people who have a family background of mental illness – and so probably have a genetic vulnerability anyway - are more likely to develop schizophrenia if they use cannabis as well.
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Cheesy
Spot on.
The trouble is that dope heads deny all the scientific evidence of psychosis as propoganda. As someone who has seen it in my own family I know it is real.
 
I smoked it for 9 years of my life every night and when it came time to stop i struggled, people who think there is no addiction are in denial, its bloody good though but i recomend keeping it to one or two nights a week
 
For.

It should be made legal to smoke it in your home should you be over 21 IMO.

As someone who suffers from what is classed as a 'severe mental disorder' I know only too well how it can HELP me. Obviously there is a difference, I was 19 when I first tried weed but never smoked it enough to actually buy it so that rules out the risk in the above mentioned study. I ended up tapped without the influence of drugs or a bad upbringing and I know people who have smoked bud for years and years yet they remain in a level state of mind. Because of my illness I have to take take certain medication on a permanant basis, and other medication depending on how I am feeling. Now this medication is a sedative which you can become addicted to, and at one point thats how I was getting until I decided to see if smoking weed could help. I found that I was able to smoke weed and still do things that needed doing as well as keeping me 'level' I honestly believe that it helps me in a better way than the prescribed medication. I can actually think and concentrate, for me it has been a revelation.

I would just like to say that I am in no way encouraging anybody to smoke or take any kind of drugs.
 
berger1985 said:
For.

It should be made legal to smoke it in your home should you be over 21 IMO.

As someone who suffers from what is classed as a 'severe mental disorder' I know only too well how it can HELP me. Obviously there is a difference, I was 19 when I first tried weed but never smoked it enough to actually buy it so that rules out the risk in the above mentioned study. I ended up tapped without the influence of drugs or a bad upbringing and I know people who have smoked bud for years and years yet they remain in a level state of mind. Because of my illness I have to take take certain medication on a permanant basis, and other medication depending on how I am feeling. Now this medication is a sedative which you can become addicted to, and at one point thats how I was getting until I decided to see if smoking weed could help. I found that I was able to smoke weed and still do things that needed doing as well as keeping me 'level' I honestly believe that it helps me in a better way than the prescribed medication. I can actually think and concentrate, for me it has been a revelation.

I would just like to say that I am in no way encouraging anybody to smoke or take any kind of drugs.
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thats the reason i took it
 
bluemoon73 did you too find that it helped? Have you had any adverse effects since stopping? Cheers
 
I had a very good friend once who chucked petrol all over me and fooked around with a lighter whilst suffering a Cannabis psychosis, its not for every one, and when it goes wrong it goes very wrong.
 
berger1985 said:
bluemoon73 did you too find that it helped? Have you had any adverse effects since stopping? Cheers
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it helped because i need something to level me out at night and not something that zonked me out all day as i was fookin hopeless at work on the medication but when i decided not to have it any more it was months before i could sleep right, mental wise ive always been thick as, so i dont feel any effect
 
I've smoked it near enough everyday for the past 15 years. I have started to despise the stuff and question why I bother with it anymore. I fell out with my smoking partner and knocked it on teh head for a month and felt better for it. I'm against it, but can see why people are for it.
 
denislawsbackheel said:
Cheesy
Spot on.
The trouble is that dope heads deny all the scientific evidence of psychosis as propoganda. As someone who has seen it in my own family I know it is real.
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Agreed.
 
mackenzie said:
denislawsbackheel said:
Cheesy
Spot on.
The trouble is that dope heads deny all the scientific evidence of psychosis as propoganda. As someone who has seen it in my own family I know it is real.
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Agreed.
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Tiz true, some are not going to like what i say, but if some class A's are used sensibly they have less side affects than weed.
 
ElanJo said:
For or Against?
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are you kidding? the billions probably trillions spent in the US to try to rid us of a drug with no recorded fatalities, that's money well spent! 80% of items you find at a grocery store are more harmful than cannabis. I say this as someone who has never witnessed anyone become a slave to it like mentioned above or have any mental disorders from it.

then there is the gateway drug theory. IMO the folks who use cannabis as a gateway drug for harder stuff are going to somehow get to the harder stuff if they want it with or without cannabis. Kids who are curious will do what's accessible to them. When I was 14-15 acid was loads more easier to get then weed. So sure enough there was a period of time when I knew 10 to 15 kids a day being sent home from school for being on acid.
 
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