Liverpool (A) | PL | Post-Match Thread

[remember arthur mann]

We're suckers for the hoofball concession.

 

[PPT]

I would think, arthur, that the brand of football exhibited by Liverpool is rarely seen on the training grounds. I can't imagine that Pep does a morning where he has Eddie, Ruben, Nathan, Stonesy 'n Manny booting the ball up the pitch and Haaland chasing after it, or Carsssssssssoooooooonnnn doing similar and Ruben trying to defend it. But it seems it's the only way, other than the career worldy, where we concede. We're suckers for the hoofball concession.

And this is the annoying thing for me. It's 100% clear exactly what tactics and what game they are going to play beforehand There is no surprises. So why not adjust your tactics for just one game. One single game, just for 90 minutes be pragmatic and set your stall out to stop them for the good of the team and the club? Win the game collect the three points, get back on the bus and come home job done? I know Pep has his 'philosophy and playing style but sometimes he seems he just wants to cut off his nose to spite his face.

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

This post makes little or no sense.

I conclude therefore that you are not a graduate in logic from the Anfield university.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

And this is the annoying thing for me. It's 100% clear exactly what tactics and what game they are going to play beforehand There is no surprises. So why not adjust your tactics for just one game. One single game, just for 90 minutes be pragmatic and set your stall out to stop them for the good of the team and the club? Win the game collect the three points, get back on the bus and come home job done? I know Pep has his 'philosophy and playing style but sometimes he seems he just wants to cut off his nose to spite his face.

When we beat them at Anfield in 2021 Pep employed the tactic of slowing the game down to walking pace and not vacating the full back spaces. We kept it tight up to about 60 minutes on Sunday. Then the shackles came off and we started to have a go at them, city moving higher up the pitch gave them what they wanted and situations to counter quickly.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

And this is the annoying thing for me. It's 100% clear exactly what tactics and what game they are going to play beforehand There is no surprises. So why not adjust your tactics for just one game. One single game, just for 90 minutes be pragmatic and set your stall out to stop them for the good of the team and the club? Win the game collect the three points, get back on the bus and come home job done? I know Pep has his 'philosophy and playing style but sometimes he seems he just wants to cut off his nose to spite his face.

I think he is a little desperate to redress the win balance with Klopp and he relishes a hefty score line and sets up accordingly.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

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After that pile of advertising shite, arthur, I readjusted my football ambitions to include watching an Accrington game. it took me years to get the chance - Rochdale 1 Stanley 0, a couple of seasons back!

 

[supercity88]

We didn't deserve to lose, but probably didn't do enough to win it either. A draw would have been fair. We've not been that good so far this season. Haaland is masking that fact because he's been so prolific. We were poor against Palace in the first half. We were poor at Newcastle, letting them create chances at will. We were pretty stale at Villa Park as well. The home game against Dortmund we were way off it.

It was always going to take time to adjust to having a target man. We went from not finding him enough to now looking for him too much and not having the right balance between our typical patient build-up and getting the ball to Haaland. Others have to step up and support him and make those usual movements to help break teams down. I don't think the formation suited us at all, but we go again this weekend. Brighton have been playing well, they just lack a striker. It's the perfect opportunity for us to get things back on track. Win our next 4 league games before the WC and I think we'll be within 1-2pts of Arsenal. I think they'll drop points over the coming games.

 

[applejuice]

When we beat them at Anfield in 2021 Pep employed the tactic of slowing the game down to walking pace and not vacating the full back spaces. We kept it tight up to about 60 minutes on Sunday. Then the shackles came off and we started to have a go at them, city moving higher up the pitch gave them what they wanted and situations to counter quickly.

It is more difficult to keep calm with fans and noises. Frankly we were a bit out of control in spells in the first half and rushed in the 2nd half even before Salah goal. They had several good chances before the goal. The bad ref also contributed to the frustration.

 

[Hayley Croppers chopper]

But that's exactly the point - if the rules say it has to be a "clear and obvious error", subsequently if it isn't then VAR shouldn't be involved.

If a shirt pull is a foul then it has to be given every time it's seen. If the ref has seen it and plays on, there's absolutely no point if it means a goal is scored a few seconds later then is chalked off. If the ref hasn't seen it, i.e. can't see it, then it's not an error. How can not being able to see something be an error, "clear and obvious" or otherwise?

This idea of letting the game flow needs to be clarified. at what point is a foul not a foul? And if you're going to let it go then you can't pull it back later on because it's resulted in a goal, it's ridiculous.

Every single shirt pull in the box should be a penalty but it hardly ever is.
Absolutely spot on about letting the game flow.

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

One incident in the game which has appeared to be overlooked , when we were attacking Alty dedided to stop the game to send off Clubshop , never seen this happen before , usually a ref waits until the ball is out of play and then approaches the bench ,it must be a Klanfield thing to break up any attacking momentum , c*nts.

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

Big hoof, kick and rush football does for City.

Don't knock it , Wimbedon were the masters , a team Clubshop and his tramps can aspire to.

 

[Tolmie scores]

I would think, arthur, that the brand of football exhibited by Liverpool is rarely seen on the training grounds. I can't imagine that Pep does a morning where he has Eddie, Ruben, Nathan, Stonesy 'n Manny booting the ball up the pitch and Haaland chasing after it, or Carsssssssssoooooooonnnn doing similar and Ruben trying to defend it. But it seems it's the only way, other than the career worldy, where we concede. We're suckers for the hoofball concession.

Should learn really...everyone up front for a free kick away from home to the team suported by the Danish ...not many scouse lets get this clear for the meeja cunts

 

[applejuice]

I keep reading this but it simply isn’t true. He’s had one great game this season when he ran at defenders and terrorised then. In the next game he reverted to stop, turn and pass back.

If Foden wasn’t prepared to run at Milner it’s probably because he was under orders, the same orders Grealish would have been under.

Besides that, if you play Grealish who are you leaving out, Foden ? If you leave out Gundo or Bernie you completely change the setup.

Well
If you recall recent starts of Grealish...

Grealish ran at players during our preseason in USA. It was friendly but bayern munich was a proper team. He ran at players vs Wolves, United, Copenhagen(home) and Sevilla.... But much less so in the other games.

Guess what is the common between these games?

Gundo did not play as left midfielder. (Gundo started as holding midfielder vs United)
Either KDB played as a 10 or Bernado played as a 8 in those games.

It is not rocket science. Gundo likes to do third man run and he usually occupies left halfspace. Grealish is most effective when he cuts inside and makes dialog runs. So when he pairs with Gundo, they actually block each other natural attacking path pattern which nullify the threat from the left.

 

[Mancini’s Pastilles]

Having now calmed down, it happens, we lost, and we will lose again a few times this season for sure... How we react is vital let's Start by smashing Brighton into oblivion and hopefully get ourselves in good position for the world Cup break

 

[citymad]

Having now calmed down, it happens, we lost, and we will lose again a few times this season for sure... How we react is vital let's Start by smashing Brighton into oblivion and hopefully get ourselves in good position for the world Cup break

 

[TheThirdDeano]

The thread was removed but I really want to say something.

As a fanbase we need to be careful of how this proceeds. There's no denying things keep getting uglier and uglier and an executive level and worse and worse at a fan level. It's useless to argue who is forcing the issue, and let's be honest it's a very one way hostility. We all know it and we all feel it bubbling up.

The media don't help, they don't want to help and they have a vested interest in protecting one of the fan bases as their colleagues have lost jobs, business and money making comments on them in the past, meanwhile the other group are under the microscope for everything. Even when they donated income to a match they were said to have only done it as a PR move and deserve no credit.

My biggest concern is, on purpose or by accident, a Liverpool fan is going to seriously (god forbid mortally) hurt. Not because they are more important than City fans. I want no one to get hurt but it seems increasingly likely with how things are escalating. But, Seriously consider the state of play if that happens. City will never live it down, the fan base will be attacked (with zero respite and zero sympathy) and they will never allow anyone to ever forget it. All of their behavior will be vidicated. In short; they will win.

We have to be smart. We can't let them win. No matter how bad they are, we can't stoop to their level

 

[Inter Me Nan]

The thread was removed but I really want to say something.

As a fanbase we need to be careful of how this proceeds. There's no denying things keep getting uglier and uglier and an executive level and worse and worse at a fan level. It's useless to argue who is forcing the issue, and let's be honest it's a very one way hostility. We all know it and we all feel it bubbling up.

The media don't help, they don't want to help and they have a vested interest in protecting one of the fan bases as their colleagues have lost jobs, business and money making comments on them in the past, meanwhile the other group are under the microscope for everything. Even when they donated income to a match they were said to have only done it as a PR move and deserve no credit.

My biggest concern is, on purpose or by accident, a Liverpool fan is going to seriously (god forbid mortally) hurt. Not because they are more important than City fans. I want no one to get hurt but it seems increasingly likely with how things are escalating. But, Seriously consider the state of play if that happens. City will never live it down, the fan base will be attacked (with zero respite and zero sympathy) and they will never allow anyone to ever forget it. All of their behavior will be vidicated. In short; they will win.

We have to be smart. We can't let them win. No matter how bad they are, we can't raise to their level

Well said, let's win the league again and rub it in.

 

[citizen_maine]

We have to be smart. We can't let them win. No matter how bad they are, we can't raise to their level

Stoop

 

[TheThirdDeano]

Stoop

good catch

 

[Dodgy Gangster]

Post match I was so consumed by all the important things that angered me that I forgot about a trivial little thing which is still pretty annoying ….. why did Tyler constantly refer to Firmino as “Bobby Firmino” .

Commentators refer to players only by their surnames, always have done, so with his track record of shockingly poor impartiality we can only assume that doddery old Tyler was trying to ingratiate himself with dippers fans by referring to him as Bobby.