Liverpool bus damaged on journey back from Etihad Stadium today

I’d suggest, that despite hundreds of pages of analysis on here and elsewhere about people’s specific reasons for singing it, that the vast majority who do sing it, don’t give it anywhere near as much thought.

It’s a song they’ve heard and repeated. End of analysis.

“The Sun was right, you’re murderers” is a good example of the same. It makes no sense whatsoever because The Sun claimed no such thing. But people have heard it and copy it regardless. I doubt, if pushed, that anybody actually believes that “All Yorkshiremen shag sheep” either. But they sing it anyway. They’re football chants not a CIA polygraph test.

I think there’s a lot less thought goes into the singing than some people seem to think.
There are two purposes to football chants:

- To big up and encourage your own team, and
- To gratuitously wind up the other club’s supporters.

As you say, they aren‘t always forensically tested. On the contrary, a lot of them over the years exhort physical acts that defy medical science. All part of the fun.

To my mind, ATV is clearly INDIRECTLY connected to Hillsborough, but only as one of several other events set in an overbearing culture. I think it’s disingenuous to deny some connection.

That said, as long as it remains implicit it’s fair game, particularly when aimed at such a garrulous, intrusive and aggressive bunch of arseholes.
 
Probably a minor scratch, like when they blamed us for vandalism as someone wrote 1 thing on a toilet door with the word Kopites which we would not use and zero proof it was not there prior the game
TBF, I can't see anyone running around taking photos of toilet doors before a match just in case.

Although Louis Edwards does come to mind now I think of it.
 

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