That'll go down well........especially in the South StandIt'll be interesting to see how long it takes city to announce the intention to hand out life bans for those chanting it.
Not liking the dippers and singing about people dying aren't really the same thing though, are they.
If they tried to ban me for singing something that isn't even about the thing I'm being told it's about I'd tell them to shove their season tickets up their fucking arse.It'll be interesting to see how long it takes city to announce the intention to hand out life bans for those chanting it.
Where does always the victims mention dying? The first time I heard that song was when they tried to defend Suarez for being a racist cheating ****. That's what the song is about (for me anyway) and I'll proudly sing it at the top of my lungs every time we play the fucking pricks.Not liking the dippers and singing about people dying aren't really the same thing though, are they.
That conspicuously isn’t answering the question, which is do you think there is an inveterate culture associated with Liverpool Football Club that manifests itself as an inability to take responsibility for its actions and/or that of its supporters.I think that if people wanted to sing about Heysel, they'd use one of the many songs about Heysel, and if they wanted to sing about defending Suarez, they'd make up a song about that, and Always the victims not being explicitly about Hillsborough gives people what they think is an acceptable fig leaf to sing about Hillsborough being Liverpool fans fault whilst pretending they aren't.
The song might originate in 2011 but the line comes from Boris Johnson's 2004 Spectator article and the aftermath of that blowing up where he says - in an article directly apportioning blame for Hillsborough to Liverpool fans - that they always see themselves as victims and wallow in it.
You can't take a line from something explicitly about Hillsborough, turn it into a chant and then pretend it's not about Hillsborough.
The United fans singing the song in 2012 also made headlines, and IIRC United apologised and the United supporters Trust had to release statements about it, so its been 11 years since people have known that it's been interpreted as being about Hillsborough.
What absolute fucking nonsense.Always the victims not being explicitly about Hillsborough gives people what they think is an acceptable fig leaf to sing about Hillsborough
In theory Eccles this makes sense, but as you know emotions run high at football matches (imagine if the dippers criticised John Boy!!). I thing the it’s never your fault chant is ok as it relates to bricking coaches (team and supporters), throwing piss, throwing coins at a young City fan and giving her life long scars, racism, abusing the Queen, singing about Shipman. Not one word of that sing can be directly related to Hillsborough, it is more to do with their demented deluded appalling fanbase. They do coward like things like those mentioned above, which shows what sad soft twunts they are, and then they get all tearful over a few words. So although I agree with you I really don’t think that song is bad. More importantly are you continuing to recover well?Why can’t we just sing/chant about our own players and club and leave the other stupid, allegedly offensive chants out of it?
Or am being naive? ;-)
Most of your fans aren't northerners. Real northerners show a bit of respect. Manchester has always been a far more radical city than Liverpool. The idea that Liverpool is somehow some socialist stronghold is an absolute myth.As I said before I don't understand why more northerners don't boo it.
What absolute fucking nonsense.
Most of the fans who joined in on Saturday when the Liverpool players surrounded the ref wouldn't haven't given a thought to Hillsborough, mainly because they weren't singing about it.
You clearly weren't in the ground.
My biggest gripe is their self-interest in taking advantage of a system that has routinely fucked them over for years. I’m sure Liverpool fans do feel mistreated by the establishment just as many other sections of society do. It’s no secret that Thatcher pursued a policy of managed decline in Liverpool after the Toxteth riots in ‘81.I never said it was but it's about showing a bit of respect. This booing is another manifestation of the LFC cult.
If Liverpool fans (most of whom aren't from Liverpool) feel that Liverpool has been treated badly by the Establishment, why don't Everton fans (most of whom are from Liverpool) boo it?
Why don't fans of clubs like Barnsley and others in the Yorkshire coalfields (who suffered far worse and longer-term economic damage than Liverpool) do it?
Why don't Everton or Tranmere fans come out with this 'Scouse not English' shite?
It's just the Liverpool fan "Look at us, we're different from all the rest"cult mentality
Get off your fucking high horse, I didn't sing the precious song. I was pointing out people singing it didn't have Hillsborough top of mind, it was triggered by actions on the pitch and wasn't sang again.No I wasn't there, and some people will think that disqualifies me from the discussion which is fine, but given this is the 3rd or 4th game vs Liverpool in a row that the same song has caused national headlines and caused the club to release statements, and caused hundreds of pages of discussion on here, there can be no pretence that people are unaware of the controversy surrounding the song and whether it's linked to Hillsborough.
You sing that song, you know Liverpool fans think it's about Hillsborough, you know the press and the FA think it's about Hillsborough, and you know the club are going to have to release a statement about it again.