Liverpool (H) Post-Match Thread

Otamendi's Beard said:
Liverpool have one of the most obvious game plans but it's just so effective. They do a little drop off from midfield and Van Dijk, Arnold or Robertson will just long ball it into the gap between the full back and centre half.

Mane and Salah are so difficult to track and Garcia will have learnt so much from that in the 1st half.

After that we blew them away.
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Their play relies on mental and physical fitness for 90 minutes, very few moments of brilliance in VARpool's play just loads of tiny defensive errors that lead to space for the winger which usually lead to goals for them. Defenders and D-Midfielders normally have to be on their game for 90mins because of what you say about Salah and Mane, and lets be honest, most of them aren't.

But the game's being played at a "slightly" slower pace with much less continual intensity (Drinks breaks? I get it but...) and that doesn't suite their play, there's much less mental fatigue.

It suits ours perfectly as skilful should always beat hard-work...
(There's a quote in there somewhere)
 
Stoned Rose said:
Remember all those dildos a few weeks back on here saying shit like "think I'll fuck football off now" and "not really missed the game much"?

Give us a wave you absolute vaginas.
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I hadn’t missed the sport while it was off, not one bit to be honest.

And I’ve not really enjoyed any game yet since it’s been back, I barely flinch when we score, last night I raised a little fist to the air and a “yes” for the first time in our five games.

And I’ve only watched City, can’t get up for watching anyone else yet.

The no fans thing is genuinely awful! It’s like watching a video of a training session or playing a game of FIFA on my phone while I’m sat on the loo. Doesn’t quite feel real, barely has friendly feel to it.

Kev said after the Newcastle game on Sunday; “I don’t enjoy playing like this but I’m a professional and have to do my job”. Much the same that I don’t enjoy watching like this.
 
JRockBlues said:
After a re-watch of the match over lunch time I noticed that Kyle Walker had a very disciplined performance last night. Not too many adventurous runs forward which meant that we were less exposed to their favourite tactic of putting Mane through with a long crossfield diagonal from The Annoying Acronym. Allowing Foden to drift into the space between Robertson and Van Dijk also made the former more unsure of whether to go forward too which prevented Mendy from getting overloaded. Excellent tactical disply from Pep & the lads.
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Pep nullified their biggest threat by keeping mane quiet, our attacking system was so fluid it was too much for Liverpool to cope with, an absolute tactical masterclass from pep. Also using our wingers to roam inside caused them all kinds of problems.
 
simon23 said:
He did say it - its quite a famous quote from him (though I may have not got it word for word)

Point me to where else I have self congratualted myself in my whole time on BM (about 13-14 yrs I belive) before this game - And I was only forced to do it to defend my point - I wouldnt have said anything otherwise.

Again you believe you know something about someone that you have never met to the point you can say something about my psychological state. - thats presumptious (and completely wrong) to say the least.

You yet again choose to ignore the positive points in my previous long post though (which you asked for a precise of) - probably cause it doesnt fit your narrative.

Keep going though if you want but lets stick to the facts about the game - its too easy to tart throwing insults - its pretty base level
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One of his best quotes that;
 
Breaking: Garcia is at hospital for surgery . Doctors are trying to take dish satellite out from his back pocket.
 
JRockBlues said:
After a re-watch of the match over lunch time I noticed that Kyle Walker had a very disciplined performance last night. Not too many adventurous runs forward which meant that we were less exposed to their favourite tactic of putting Mane through with a long crossfield diagonal from The Annoying Acronym. Allowing Foden to drift into the space between Robertson and Van Dijk also made the former more unsure of whether to go forward too which prevented Mendy from getting overloaded. Excellent tactical disply from Pep & the lads.
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I said in the MOTM thread that our two full backs were our best two players last night.

They were the two who gave the ball away the least, they were the two up against their best two players and they defended excellently against both of them.
 
tornandfrayed said:
No as I posted earlier the VAR ref was wrong.

'Exactly. The process should have been ( and the same for Kane's disallowed goal)
1. Did the ball touch an attacking team player's hand/arm - yes
2. Was that as a result of foul play - yes so not handball
3. Should a free kick have been awarded or should advantage have been played - attacking team scored so advantage correct decision by the referee.
4. Goal stands.'
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Well, what "should have been" isn't what's in the laws.
ancoats said:
yep

no other way could foden move his arm because he was fouled and taken out from behind ? in the law you can not tackle from behind even if you get the ball first your coming through a player and clearly a foul ? VAR are cleaver in pin pointing the ball to arm but what about the foul ??

its sent a message again to manchester city for next season that VAR will fuck us over every chance they get ? we must destroy teams and put anyway more of our chances and kill games off like last night. and VAR can not do much about the results other than change the winning scoreline
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Neither is you can't tackle from behind. It was in the laws 20 years ago, as a straight red, but not for long.
 
the-ecstacy-of-eight said:
They'll get help, as usual, but they're just not good enough to win it even with the help
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What's weird is that there's this way of playing football in England that works generally poorly elsewhere but can do wonders in England.

If you have a hard working team of physically big/strong players who can defend decently and you have attacking players with a lot of technical skill, then you can get a lot of success. If you look at United and Liverpool, or recently Tottenham between 2016-2019, or even Leicester when they won the title, there's this distinct pattern where it's just a physically impressive team with solid defenders and skillful attackers making the difference.

This and last season Liverpool have been dominant physically. Their big players are colossal and everyone else is Tevez-esque. United have huge players thanks to Mourinho. They also now have a front 5 who in my opinion collectively are more skillful than Liverpool's, and they win more penalties than Crystal Palace could even dream of. If they can sign a top quality LB and DM, on top of the usual favours they'd get, don't be surprised to see them magically shithouse their way up the table next season.
 
Blue Til Death said:
That horrid **** Robertson was exposed so badly last night, his positioning was schoolboy class at best, loved Watching Foden and the rest Annihilating the fuck pig....!

I’m not a fan of this utter ****, hope it comes across well ..
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Yes rushing out like a school boy when Phil played his one-two for his goal.
 
mccity said:
What's weird is that there's this way of playing football in England that works generally poorly elsewhere but can do wonders in England.

If you have a hard working team of physically big/strong players who can defend decently and you have attacking players with a lot of technical skill, then you can get a lot of success. If you look at United and Liverpool, or recently Tottenham between 2016-2019, or even Leicester when they won the title, there's this distinct pattern where it's just a physically impressive team with solid defenders and skillful attackers making the difference.

This and last season Liverpool have been dominant physically. Their big players are colossal and everyone else is Tevez-esque. United have huge players thanks to Mourinho. They also now have a front 5 who in my opinion collectively are more skillful than Liverpool's, and they win more penalties than Crystal Palace could even dream of. If they can sign a top quality LB and DM, on top of the usual favours they'd get, don't be surprised to see them magically shithouse their way up the table next season.
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Well, it's the favours in the physicality department that help. Ultimately, Liverpool are just Ferguson's Rags with inverted wingers. Just a stage further than they went with Ronaldo on the left. That just means they turn Robertson and TAA into Giggs and Beckham equivalents on the flanks, and just pump the ball in the box and let it drop, the skill just means they can stick it in from 30 yards, and when that fails, they just cheat and get away with it.

It's an easier and less complicated system to play, and just relies on physical endurance and sheer will, it's a destructive system with the press so it means you have to be on your game to play against them technically, and if you're not good enough to do that you'll get ground down and then screwed if necessary to get them over the line.
 
supercity88 said:
Clearly a different game to you then. Checked the stats from the game and he didn't make a single interception though, but technically countless would still be right! He was awful under the press in the first half, kept giving it away. His pass completion was 87% when he's usually up at 96%. Given time on the ball he is quality, his pass to Jesus was good (but you'd expect him to make it). Just my observation. We didn't start well under their high press and he was the main reason. But it's irrelevant as we battered them!
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post the stats , 2nd request
 
mccity said:
What's weird is that there's this way of playing football in England that works generally poorly elsewhere but can do wonders in England.

If you have a hard working team of physically big/strong players who can defend decently and you have attacking players with a lot of technical skill, then you can get a lot of success. If you look at United and Liverpool, or recently Tottenham between 2016-2019, or even Leicester when they won the title, there's this distinct pattern where it's just a physically impressive team with solid defenders and skillful attackers making the difference.

This and last season Liverpool have been dominant physically. Their big players are colossal and everyone else is Tevez-esque. United have huge players thanks to Mourinho. They also now have a front 5 who in my opinion collectively are more skillful than Liverpool's, and they win more penalties than Crystal Palace could even dream of. If they can sign a top quality LB and DM, on top of the usual favours they'd get, don't be surprised to see them magically shithouse their way up the table next season.
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I know what you mean, but they've just not got much depth of quality past much of the first 11 for me. I'd say you're worrying a bit too much (understandably so though).

They're got a decent first 11, who on their day is a match for most.

They're OK for keepers and if that Mason Greenwood progresses maybe I'll be more worried, but Rushforward and Igloo over a full season aren't great as your best front two (even with all the penalty boosted stats). Martial is hit and miss and Daniel James? Youtube Jesse?

Their central defence, past that bloke with a breezeblock for a head and Lindelof is full of comedy characters who are full of errors and have one good game in 5, and their midfield's the same. Fred? Mata? McTommyknee? Decent, but shit really

Worry not, next season I reckon they'll get helped into the proper Europe cup but they're not a team who are good enough to be helped to the title.
Liverpool are a good team who received help and won, there aren't any other team who are good enough to win it, even with help...

IMO
 
jimmygrimblesboots said:
With Laporte fit again , Mendy starting to look like the full back we signed , and if we can get a top class centre back we will be right back in the hunt for the title , as many have said our defence has cost us the title , Pep will have this sorted in the next couple of months. If the Dippers were a great footballing side who swept everything in front of them away i would be concerned
But they have ground out results on many occasions and threw cup competitions to win their title , credit were its due , the three water carriers they have in midfield have done a job , and the Winbledon 1990 tactics have been very productive , but they feed off their crowd (pushing players into advertising hoardings etc.,) and if the game continues behind closed doors they will be badly affected , where as we are used to playing in front of empty seats :) and are technically on a different level from Klippety's over achievers.
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Don’t say mendy is starting to look like a proper full because every time that happens he Fucks up .
 
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