Liverpool thread 2017/18

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I didn't know til just now, but Redmen TV were posting all their stuff with a big banner icon that said "Liverpool: Champions of Europe Elect". Not even the Rags would do that.
 
bluethrunthru said:
all these premature PL and CL winners shirts.... why not just print "next year is our year" shirts and they will be able to wear them in any competition for ever more. Sorted laaaaa
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Didn't learn from 2013/14 at all, did they?
 
CityInWashingtonState said:
100% thought that Ramos would do whatever it takes to win - Ramos, IMO, intentionally tried to put a bit extra into the challenge on Salah - and, as things turned out, he'd have been delighted in the outcome. Salah out of the game - but not (hopefully) injured long term.
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Maybe but this isn't the 1970's football era where I really don't think Ramos intentionally went out there to target Salah & get him out of the game as some Dipper fans are suggesting.

First & foremost it looks like Mo was grabbing onto Ramos's arm in the challenge & basically he's thought well if you're going to do that to me I'm going to take you down as per the norm psyche in most one on one footie battles. There's always one that ends up worse than the other & unfortunately for Mo they both landed on his shoulder.

A pre-medicated Cantona 'kung-fu' style kick at someone is entirely a different matter.
 
CityInWashingtonState said:
100% thought that Ramos would do whatever it takes to win - Ramos, IMO, intentionally tried to put a bit extra into the challenge on Salah - and, as things turned out, he'd have been delighted in the outcome. Salah out of the game - but not (hopefully) injured long term.
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I think it was accidental. Ramos is quite clumsy against skilful players but don't think he's out to intentionally injure opponents.
Key moment of game because Liverpool were better team till then
 
hammersmithlad said:
Maybe but this isn't the 1970's football era where I really don't think Ramos intentionally went out there to target Salah & get him out of the game as some Dipper fans are suggesting.

First & foremost it looks like Mo was grabbing onto Ramos's arm in the challenge & basically he's thought well if you're going to do that to me I'm going to take you down as per the norm psyche in most one on one footie battles. There's always one that ends up worse than the other & unfortunately for Mo they both landed on his shoulder.

A pre-medicated Cantona 'kung-fu' style kick at someone is entirely a different matter.
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Agreed - I don't think that Ramos went out of his way to injure Salah - but, having pinned Salah's arm in that challenge, he wasn't going to let it go and he was going to do his all to dive on top of Salah during the challenge. Not 100% dirty play - but definitely putting a bit extra into the challenge that was absolutely necessary.

It's surprising how little it takes to dislocate a shoulder - I once dislocated someone's shoulder during a pick-up game of tackle American football in college - didn't even try to injure my opponent - just an accident; and I'm not at all an imposing figure (5'8" 145#). Ramos is far larger.

Felt terrible about it and drove him to the hospital straight away.
 
Mallorca Blue said:
I think it was accidental. Ramos is quite clumsy against skilful players but don't think he's out to intentionally injure opponents.
Key moment of game because Liverpool were better team till then
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I think the injury was entirely unintentional, even though the pulling/armlock was intentional. He didn’t mean to dislocate his shoulder the way down, it just happened that way. And it looked as if Salah initiated that lock, anyway.

I cannot tell you how many times my arm has been in that sort of lock whilst playing, both my doing it and the other player initiating. It is a VERY common jostling/strongarming situation when defending players (which is even coached as a tactic), and anyone that says otherwise is lying to suit their agenda.
 
i♥city! said:
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This wouldn't have been possible without Ramos...Cheers everyone and have a good night!
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Dilly Dilly.
 
Mallorca Blue said:
I think it was accidental. Ramos is quite clumsy against skilful players but don't think he's out to intentionally injure opponents.
Key moment of game because Liverpool were better team till then
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Don't give them that get out. They were the better team because they spunked their load in the first 30 minutes as usual. They would have gone downhill from that point whether Salah had stayed on or not. Anyone who's watched any Liverpool game this season could tell you if they didn't score a few in the first half, they were never going to win that game.
 
This tackle really is a non-story which is just being used as a diversionary tactic to try and take the heat off their clown of a goalkeeper (can you just imagine if that would have been us & Bravo in goal!) and also the fact that the scousers lost and choked in a cup final yet again - by the sycophantic scouse biased media.
If Liverpool or anyone else think they are going to win anything of note with Jordan Henderson and James Milner in their midfield they really are deluded.

Yet again it was shown that they are truly a one man team. They visibly shrank when Salah went off and the same happened in the semi-final against Roma when he was subbed. They virtually imploded. Salah has scored circa 40% of their total goal tally in the league. If he is injured or doesn't turn up they are a bang average team.

I also genuinely believe that the injury was entirely unintentional. It was unfortunate for Salah but shit happens on a football field (as we well know).
So the media keep banging on about this tackle and are effectively throwing a smokescreen over the fact that they bottled it once again and chalked up another defeat in a major final.
 
Salah has a penchant for locking arms like he did with Ramos. It's a trick he has to help him keep balance, plus when he gets past the defender if they pull away then he has the option to go down and win a cheap free kick.

Ramos was just a bit too clever and strong for him for it to work this time. I do suspect Ramos did intend to throw him down as a means of letting him know who's boss, although I don't think he expected or planned for Salah to land so unusually and get injured.
 
Bert Trautmanns Helemet said:
This tackle really is a non-story which is just being used as a diversionary tactic to try and take the heat off their clown of a goalkeeper (can you just imagine if that would have been us & Bravo in goal!) and also the fact that the scousers lost and choked in a cup final yet again - by the sycophantic scouse biased media.
If Liverpool or anyone else think they are going to win anything of note with Jordan Henderson and James Milner in their midfield they really are deluded.

Yet again it was shown that they are truly a one man team. They visibly shrank when Salah went off and the same happened in the semi-final against Roma when he was subbed. They virtually imploded. Salah has scored circa 40% of their total goal tally in the league. If he is injured or doesn't turn up they are a bang average team.

I also genuinely believe that the injury was entirely unintentional. It was unfortunate for Salah but shit happens on a football field (as we well know).
So the media keep banging on about this tackle and are effectively throwing a smokescreen over the fact that they bottled it once again and chalked up another defeat in a major final.
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Keeper had a bad day, I think we can leave it to his own fans to call him a clown, no sympathy for the Dippers but Karius has been hung out to dry and personally I hate that.
 
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