Liverpool thread 2017/18

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Listening to 5live and they had a bloke on a bus on saying he had given his ticket to his 15 year old son. He was hoping to pick up a ticket at the game. They will get to Kiev on Saturday morning.
 
I have no sypathy for any of these twats who have had fliigts cancelled, fucking amateurs, everyone know you don't fly direct to a european games venue, you go via somewhere else then catch a coach, train, fishing trawler etc.
 


More exceptionalism. Maddock is another of the Scouse mafia in the national press. I've seen extracts from Honigstein's book about Klopp suggesting that he was put off Manchester United by Woodward pitching Old Trafford to him as a version of Disneyland. The extract I saw also referred to talks with us but suggested he was never really interested without saying why. I expect this also applies to his view of City (needless to say, I think he's wrong).

Why and when did we ever want him anyway? Pep was always the plan.
 
I can understand why the Utd Circus wouldn't be appealing to Klopp, I can also see that maybe the very high level of corporate structure at City might be intimidating for someone who runs on emotion like he does (see also R. Mancini). I don't think they are the same issue though.

The reality is this; We have had to adopt the very professional and slick corporate approach because its the only possible way for us to develop into the superpower that we and the owners want us to be. The money has to come from somewhere, our owners have managed to invest heavily as needed in spite of the FFP bollocks, they've also built the thing as a real multinational business to create the long term stability of revenues that are needed to stay in that game.

Liverpool have taken the moneyball route... which is fine but I wonder how Klopp will feel if they get cold feet about investing in the club over the next couple of years. They've got lucky in recent years that a couple of big value player sales have allowed them to spend big while balancing the books. That's moneyball in a nutshell, and not dissimilar to what Southampton have tried to do over the past few years and that nearly relegated them. If the supply of high value player sales dries up (which has happened at Southampton) are the FSG people going to put serious cash into the club to keep the squad rebuilding going? I doubt it very much. Lets face it... it takes £200M+ every year to stand still at the top of European football.

Nope... what will happen is that every 2 years Liverpool will sell their best player, as they have done recently. Salah & Firmino will be the next ones out of the door. No question about it. The reason being, winning the odd cup competition (CL, FAC whatever), doesn't fool the players. They know that the mega clubs are winning their League every couple of years and going deep every year on the CL.

I can't see how Liverpools model sustains that, so how long will it be before either Klopp get fed up with the lack of growth, or the fans turn on Klopp if they have a bad season... which they always do. Remember there were plenty of those entitled fuckers slagging Klopp off last season.

Of course no-one will ever say any of this stuff in the media, but we all know.
Klopp's in the for long haul,he's stated it could be even longer than the 4 year's he has left.

The money ball thing isn't all to do with money it's about analytical data in signing players,that's what Oakland Athletics did when Billly Beane lost his best players to free agency and his team were a low market one so they devised a strategy of targeting players using analytical data,the Redsox owned by FSG followed the same blueprint and won 3 world series after a 86 year drought,before fsg they were reknowned for wasting money on any free agent to stop them going to the Yankees.

Micheal Edwards the DoF is analytical nerd of sorts and FSG recruited him to do the same analytic approach to Liverpool,probably explains our decent transfer record the last 30 months since he's been DoF.

They won't be much turnover of players that much anyway we have a squad age just under 25 years old and have Keita and Fekir coming in the summer to plug our glaring creativity in midfield to break down park bus sides,those 2 were targeted because they rate off the chart in chance creation and dribbles,classic DoF Edwards analytical data signings.

The club turnover is going to be closer to £500 million than £400 million in the next turnover results,we just inked a 160 million 4 year shirt sponsor renewal with standard Chartered this week,the Annie Road expansion to 62k is going to start after next season and they are rumours now the Kop corners are going to filled in further expansion.

You compare us to a Southampton saying that could happen to us,our turnover will be about £250 million pounds more than them so i don't think we will end up in a situation like them,we just blow them away off the pitch with revenues as they only rely on one source of the tv deal and have limited match day and commercial revenues.We had no CL revenues last year and still made the world top 8,i don't even think Southampton made the top 30.

And FSG's policy is we spend what we earn,with turnover going up into the £400-500 million bracket we can spend big on any player Klopp desires and FSG don't need to put their hands in the pockets when you have revenues like that,if they have put money in their pockets it was to finance the main stand expansion (interest free loan to the club) and pay off the stadium debt left by the fraudulent cowboys (which is paid off now).

FSG are finally getting the club revenues growing commercially and from match day revenues and exploiting the clubs world wide reach,something Moores/Parry criminally failed to do when United were starting their behemoth enterprise in the mid 90's,they just stood idly by and watch United take over us off the pitch (as well on it).
 
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I'd bend over and take it up the arse by an elephant if it meant it would guarantee a Madrid win
 
Klopp's in the for long haul,he's stated it could be even longer than the 4 year's he has left.

The money ball thing isn't all to do with money it's about analytical data in signing players,that's what Oakland Athletics did when Billly Beane lost his best players to free agency and his team were a low market one so they devised a strategy of targeting players using analytical data,the Redsox owned by FSG followed the same blueprint and won 3 world series after a 86 year drought,before fsg they were reknowned for wasting money on any free agent to stop them going to the Yankees.

Micheal Edwards the DoF is analytical nerd of sorts and FSG recruited him to do the same analytic approach to Liverpool,probably explains our decent transfer record the last 30 months since he's been DoF.

They won't be much turnover of players that much anyway we have a squad age just under 25 years old and have Keita and Fekir coming in the summer to plug our glaring creativity in midfield to break down park bus sides,those 2 were targeted because they rate off the chart in chance creation and dribbles,classic DoF Edwards analytic data signings.

The club turnover is going to be closer to £500 million than £400 million in the next turnover results,we just inked a 160 million 4 year shirt sponsor renewal with standard Chartered this week,the Annie Road expansion to 62k is going to start after next season and they are rumours now the Kop corners are going to filled in further expansion.

You compare us to a Southampton saying that could situation will happen to us,our turnover will be about £250 million pounds more than them so i don't think we will end up in a situation like them,we just blow them away off the pitch with revenues as they only rely on one source of the tv deal and have limited match day and commercial revenues.We had no CL revenues last year and still made the world top 8,i don't even think Southampton made the top 30.

And FSG's policy is we spend what we earn,with turnover going up into the £400-500 million bracket we can spend big on any play Klopp desires and FSG don't need to put their hands in the pockets when you have revenues like that,if they have put money in their pockets it was to finance the main stand expansion (interest free loan to the club) and pay off the stadium debt left by the fraudulent cowboys (which is paid off now).

FSG are finally getting the club revenues growing commercially and from match day revenues and exploiting the clubs world wide reach,something Moores/Parry criminally failed to do when United were starting their behemoth enterprise in the mid 90's,they just stood idly by and watch United take over us off the pitch (as well on it).


Hmmmmmmmm .

Now on a more serious note let's hope you twats get seriously fucked over by RM , which will probably be far more interesting to BM members after the behavour of your fucking feral fans .
 
And FSG's policy is we spend what we earn,with turnover going up into the £400-500 million bracket we can spend big on any play Klopp desires and FSG don't need to put their hands in the pockets when you have revenues like that

I think that is the same for City...we spend what we earn
 
Klopp's in the for long haul,he's stated it could be even longer than the 4 year's he has left.

The money ball thing isn't all to do with money it's about analytical data in signing players,that's what Oakland Athletics did when Billly Beane lost his best players to free agency and his team were a low market one so they devised a strategy of targeting players using analytical data,the Redsox owned by FSG followed the same blueprint and won 3 world series after a 86 year drought,before fsg they were reknowned for wasting money on any free agent to stop them going to the Yankees.

Micheal Edwards the DoF is analytical nerd of sorts and FSG recruited him to do the same analytic approach to Liverpool,probably explains our decent transfer record the last 30 months since he's been DoF.

They won't be much turnover of players that much anyway we have a squad age just under 25 years old and have Keita and Fekir coming in the summer to plug our glaring creativity in midfield to break down park bus sides,those 2 were targeted because they rate off the chart in chance creation and dribbles,classic DoF Edwards analytic data signings.

The club turnover is going to be closer to £500 million than £400 million in the next turnover results,we just inked a 160 million 4 year shirt sponsor renewal with standard Chartered this week,the Annie Road expansion to 62k is going to start after next season and they are rumours now the Kop corners are going to filled in further expansion.

You compare us to a Southampton saying that could situation will happen to us,our turnover will be about £250 million pounds more than them so i don't think we will end up in a situation like them,we just blow them away off the pitch with revenues as they only rely on one source of the tv deal and have limited match day and commercial revenues.We had no CL revenues last year and still made the world top 8,i don't even think Southampton made the top 30.

And FSG's policy is we spend what we earn,with turnover going up into the £400-500 million bracket we can spend big on any play Klopp desires and FSG don't need to put their hands in the pockets when you have revenues like that,if they have put money in their pockets it was to finance the main stand expansion (interest free loan to the club) and pay off the stadium debt left by the fraudulent cowboys (which is paid off now).

FSG are finally getting the club revenues growing commercially and from match day revenues and exploiting the clubs world wide reach,something Moores/Parry criminally failed to do when United were starting their behemoth enterprise in the mid 90's,they just stood idly by and watch United take over us off the pitch (as well on it).

The moneyball thing is all about using analytics to identify players who can be acquired at low value, utilised at a decent level then released or sold on at a higher value. I get all the other stuff you mention and clearly Liverpool is a better run club now than it was under previous ownership. Doesn’t change the fact that as a system it doesn’t work over the long term. It may keep you stable as a top 6 level club but It won’t deliver long term growth. You can refer to the Red Sox for the proof of that. The only way to develop long term in the PL is sustained investment year on year. £200M+ and growing every year. Do you really think FSG will keep coughing up that level of funding. Not a chance... But it’s your club and you can believe whatever shit your cult like club pedal to you about how special Liverpool is, much more special than the likes of us... and therefore it keeps growing as if by magic. It’s exactly this kind of self entitled shite that makes us despise your club more and more as every year goes by.
 
Liverpool fans being attacked at some restaurant apparently. Covered in blood with head and neck wounds

this is from the mirror. They've got a vid but it won't let me play it

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Liverpool fans being attacked at some restaurant apparently. Covered in blood with head and neck wounds

this is from the mirror. They've got a vid but it won't let me play it

rtrtrtrt.jpg

I am genuinely glad we are not there. Save it for Madrid next year.
 
I'm assuming that the scousers who attacked our team bus were described by the media as "hooligans acting like a pack of dogs" ?

Or not.
 
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