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feedmpenzaandhewillscore
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Good luck with that mate if you think there's a need to sell at r's.
why were your club straight on the furlough option then? Where is your club going to plug the black hole of no match day revenue and footfall into the club shop? Do you think any club can go on at pre March 2020 ways of operating? Fenway sport can’t prop up the club with their own pockets like Mansour can. Something will have to give to make the balance sheet right.
Breadsnapper
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why were your club straight on the furlough option then? Where is your club going to plug the black hole of no match day revenue and footfall into the club shop? Do you think any club can go on at pre March 2020 ways of operating? Fenway sport can’t prop up the club with their own pockets like Mansour can. Something will have to give to make the balance sheet right.
They have bucket loads of istree to pull them through.
Good luck with that mate if you think there's a need to sell at r's.
Do you think your owners can afford a 9m a week losses over the next 12 months without crowds and selling players rags are in the same boat with there American owners who only like taking out loans.
feedmpenzaandhewillscore
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Do you think your owners can afford a 9m a week losses over the next 12 months without crowds and selling players rags are in the same boat with there American owners who only like taking out loans.
Don’t worry there’s still some of that Magical Coutinho cash left.
why were your club straight on the furlough option then? Where is your club going to plug the black hole of no match day revenue and footfall into the club shop? Do you think any club can go on at pre March 2020 ways of operating? Fenway sport can’t prop up the club with their own pockets like Mansour can. Something will have to give to make the balance sheet right.
You have a good point regarding match day tickets Everton sell more season tickets a season then Liverpool! Liverpool do that for a reason to make more money from selling the match day tickets that make them more money.
feedmpenzaandhewillscore
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Do you think your owners can afford a 9m a week losses over the next 12 months without crowds and selling players rags are in the same boat with there American owners who only like taking out loans.
The penny hasn’t dropped for him yet has it.
At least the Fenway group are saving money by cutting the wages by 50% of there over sport cash cow.The penny hasn’t dropped for him yet has it.
feedmpenzaandhewillscore
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You have a good point regarding match day tickets Everton sell more season tickets a season then Liverpool! Liverpool do that for a reason to make more money from selling the match day tickets that make them more money.
Liverpool make more than City do on match day income. The rags are looking at being a 100 million in the hole with out fans in the ground, it’s going to be very tough for the teams out side of the premier league to survive this with everything built around getting fans through the turnstile and not having a tv deal to rely on.
Bluemanc100
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We might actually have a fighting chance unless you are aided and abetted again by the powers that beOh undoubtedly.
City and L'pool are a Country mile apart from anything else in this league that's never seen consistency like these two have shown over the last 2 years in it's entire history. Absolutely mindblowing the respective outputs over the past two/ three seasons. And I can't see anything other than it being a two-horse affair over the next good few years. So far are we both ahead of everyone else.
I also think we're both the best equipped to cope with the unprecedented situation we sadly now find ourselves in. The two best footballing sides in the country, lead by the two best teachers in the country who coach their way constantly through games. With the style of football we both play, rarely giving it away controlling games, it should be just like playing a training game for both.
We look forward to the challenge again next year. As I type I wouldn't like to call it either way.
Liverpool make more than City do on match day income. The rags are looking at being a 100 million in the hole with out fans in the ground, it’s going to be very tough for the teams out of the premier league to survive this with everything built around getting fans through the turnstile and not having a tv deal to rely on.
Yep and that’s why the first report if fans could be allowed in grounds but only a small % has started its a drip drip effect.
We will making big losses as well difference is our owner will not get a loan out to cover this. American love using banks but never there money?
It was scandalous how the Glazers purchased the rags by a loan then been using them as a cash cow since!
Bluemanc100
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They blew a load on Suarez shirts... or was that pre-Coutinho?Don’t worry there’s still some of that Magical Coutinho cash left.
feedmpenzaandhewillscore
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Yep and that’s why the first report if fans could be allowed in grounds but only a small % has started its a drip drip effect.
We will making big losses as well difference is our owner will not get a loan out to cover this. American love using banks but never there money?
It was scandalous how the Glazers purchased the rags by a loan then been using them as a cash cow since!
It’s not scandalous it’s fucking great, remember the Glazers have Tom Brady’s swan song wages to find for their shit nfl franchise and their crumbling shopping malls.
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why were your club straight on the furlough option then? Where is your club going to plug the black hole of no match day revenue and footfall into the club shop? Do you think any club can go on at pre March 2020 ways of operating? Fenway sport can’t prop up the club with their own pockets like Mansour can. Something will have to give to make the balance sheet right.
The furlough disgrace was nottin more then the Americans being greedy btards and getting that completely and utterly wrong in insulting us all. (I more blame Morre as he's 'supposed' to be the Scouser among them who should know the values of the people in the City and what we stand for.). That's still a sore point with many of us and has sadly gone a long way to knocking down the trust in them they'd built up over all the good work they've done the past 4 years or so after going all-in on Klopp and changing their whole method of operation.
We're, down to in large part to taking things slowly at the start with money ball principles as you mentioned, now in just about the healthiest position the football clubs ever been. On and off the pitch. Totally self-sufficient. What we spend is what we earn. Their business model is pretty much perfect and the financial rewards on the pitch are seeing the club fly up the most valuable club/ highest-earning club list with record profits being posted year-on-year. The record-breaking new kit deal with Nike which puts profits back in the clubs own hands from the 20% of all sales/ 15% on footwear on top of the initial £30 million and bonus payments, is another glaring example of the coffers continuing to roll n. We're just approaching the end of the £50 million redevelopment of Kirkby to move all age groups into one facility, ala your training complex, with work then to start on redeveloping the Anfield Road end. (They naturally only commit to one project at a time.). But all the great off-field improvements to the ground and other facilities doesn't impact on other areas of the club financially. They don't take any dividends out either which is a massive plus. Sure, at some point if they ever do sell, they'll rake in a glorious profit. But they aren't taken out of the club like say, the Glaziers do three or four times a year which is a massive difference.
And with a great aged squad (the strongest we've had at any time in the PL era) /most all tied down for the 5 years or so, along with burgeoning youth being given its head already, the need to have to buy to any significant degree just isn't there.
I'm sure, like every club, they'll have to make some changes to accommodate the unprecedented times we are now sadly in. But I've no fear that the model they have in place will sustain them as well as anyone through this the way we do our business.
We're set up, on and off the pitch, for long term sustainability to challenge for major honours season-on-season. For all the dip in popularity that needs to built back up after the furlough carnage with many of us, nobody now disputes, after learning from their early mistakes, that the club couldn't be in any better hands off the pitch.
It’s not scandalous it’s fucking great, remember the Glazers have Tom Brady’s swan song wages to find for their shit nfl franchise and their crumbling shopping malls.
Yeah its great but the way American do business is scandalous
feedmpenzaandhewillscore
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They blew a load on Suarez shirts... or was that pre-Coutinho?
Did they manage to make any revenue streams from their fans booing Patrice Evra due to the fact he was racially abused by one of their own players?
If they get Werner we lose more ground
Don’t really get the Werner hype myself either. Obviously he’d be an upgrade on Origi, but he wouldn’t replace any of their front three in their starting XI. I’d be a lot more concerned if they got Kai Havertz. He looks like an outstanding prospect.As top quality as he is, I personally don't care too much for Werner. I think if I were a Leipzig fan I'd be getting more than a tad sick of him in the media TBH. Unusually for a German, he needs an education on when and when not to speak to the press. Prior to lockdown (I can't get into the BCD crap so haven't a clue how the Bundesliga is going on its return), he was involved in a title race and had just got through to the quarter-finals of the European Cup. And all his focus seemed to be on was openly flirting non-stop with L'pool! To then seemingly trying to play L'pool and Utd off against each other for a bigger salary.
FWIW, I don't happen to think we've ever been that interested even before CV changed the transfer landscape. (I don't know. Just an educated guess as the 'flirtings' been all one way/ there's been absolutely nottin out of L'pool/ RBL openly say they've had no contact from us And since the initial van Dijk fiasco, which ended up costing us another £20 million, the club has gone proper old school on their dealings with next to nothing coming out. And when they do feed anything, it's usually part of a smoke and mirrors game and they're actually after someone the media has no clue over.). But if we are, then he's been going the right way around talking himself, literally, out of a move. We value character and the person before the player in many respects along with them being the right footballing fit. And he's coming across as a 'me first' player and not a 'team-first' one. Which just doesn't fly under Klopp.
I mean skill-set wise, he ticks all the boxes to come in for any of the front three without a big drop-off. And the rumoured release clause makes him great value. (Or at least until the bottom fell out of the market through the pandemic.). He's a quality footballer who's not reached his ceiling yet.
But I think he's being pretty disrespectful to Leipzig to be honest and I'm finding the whole affair tiresome.
And, with Taki flashing more than enough to interchange with Bobby in his role, and Brewster set to be a big part of the squad going forward, the need to splash out major money on a forward just isn't there.
The furlough disgrace was nottin more then the Americans being greedy btards and getting that completely and utterly wrong in insulting us all. (I more blame Morre as he's 'supposed' to be the Scouser among them who should know the values of the people in the City and what we stand for.). That's still a sore point with many of us and has sadly gone a long way to knocking down the trust in them they'd built up over all the good work they've done the past 4 years or so after going all-in on Klopp and changing their whole method of operation.
We're, down to in large part to taking things slowly at the start with money ball principles as you mentioned, now in just about the healthiest position the football clubs ever been. On and off the pitch. Totally self-sufficient. What we spend is what we earn. Their business model is pretty much perfect and the financial rewards on the pitch are seeing the club fly up the most valuable club/ highest-earning club list with record profits being posted year-on-year. The record-breaking new kit deal with Nike which puts profits back in the clubs own hands from the 20% of all sales/ 15% on footwear on top of the initial £30 million and bonus payments, is another glaring example of the coffers continuing to roll n. We're just approaching the end of the £50 million redevelopment of Kirkby to move all age groups into one facility, ala your training complex, with work then to start on redeveloping the Anfield Road end. (They naturally only commit to one project at a time.). But all the great off-field improvements to the ground and other facilities doesn't impact on other areas of the club financially. They don't take any dividends out either which is a massive plus. Sure, at some point if they ever do sell, they'll rake in a glorious profit. But they aren't taken out of the club like say, the Glaziers do three or four times a year which is a massive difference.
And with a great aged squad (the strongest we've had at any time in the PL era) /most all tied down for the 5 years or so, along with burgeoning youth being given its head already, the need to have to buy to any significant degree just isn't there.
I'm sure, like every club, they'll have to make some changes to accommodate the unprecedented times we are now sadly in. But I've no fear that the model they have in place will sustain them as well as anyone through this the way we do our business.
We're set up, on and off the pitch, for long term sustainability to challenge for major honours season-on-season. For all the dip in popularity that needs to built back up after the furlough carnage with many of us, nobody now disputes, after learning from their early mistakes, that the club couldn't be in any better hands off the pitch.
Yeah looks all good and there stuff there that I didn’t know. It’s the champions league money that makes the big difference also plus your world wide fan base and don’t forget the none stop positive media, City mainly get a day or two positive media when we win a trophy. You can see how the payer of the season winners goes to see the bias in the media regarding our players. Henderson been very good this season for you but come on player of the year?
feedmpenzaandhewillscore
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The furlough disgrace was nottin more then the Americans being greedy btards and getting that completely and utterly wrong in insulting us all. (I more blame Morre as he's 'supposed' to be the Scouser among them who should know the values of the people in the City and what we stand for.). That's still a sore point with many of us and has sadly gone a long way to knocking down the trust in them they'd built up over all the good work they've done the past 4 years or so after going all-in on Klopp and changing their whole method of operation.
We're, down to in large part to taking things slowly at the start with money ball principles as you mentioned, now in just about the healthiest position the football clubs ever been. On and off the pitch. Totally self-sufficient. What we spend is what we earn. Their business model is pretty much perfect and the financial rewards on the pitch are seeing the club fly up the most valuable club/ highest-earning club list with record profits being posted year-on-year. The record-breaking new kit deal with Nike which puts profits back in the clubs own hands from the 20% of all sales/ 15% on footwear on top of the initial £30 million and bonus payments, is another glaring example of the coffers continuing to roll n. We're just approaching the end of the £50 million redevelopment of Kirkby to move all age groups into one facility, ala your training complex, with work then to start on redeveloping the Anfield Road end. (They naturally only commit to one project at a time.). But all the great off-field improvements to the ground and other facilities doesn't impact on other areas of the club financially. They don't take any dividends out either which is a massive plus. Sure, at some point if they ever do sell, they'll rake in a glorious profit. But they aren't taken out of the club like say, the Glaziers do three or four times a year which is a massive difference.
And with a great aged squad (the strongest we've had at any time in the PL era) /most all tied down for the 5 years or so, along with burgeoning youth being given its head already, the need to have to buy to any significant degree just isn't there.
I'm sure, like every club, they'll have to make some changes to accommodate the unprecedented times we are now sadly in. But I've no fear that the model they have in place will sustain them as well as anyone through this the way we do our business.
We're set up, on and off the pitch, for long term sustainability to challenge for major honours season-on-season. For all the dip in popularity that needs to built back up after the furlough carnage with many of us, nobody now disputes, after learning from their early mistakes, that the club couldn't be in any better hands off the pitch.
Sounds like a British Airways annual report dated December 2019, how are they doing now? If the finances are so great at Liverpool why were they the ones banging the table more than anyone else to get the season finished? They need the tv money, they need the prize money as there is big gaping hole in their finances just like everyone else. Safety of players and officials is not as important as protecting the money ball as it’s lost a few threads of it in in the last 3 months.
mac
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I knew he was bullshitting after he mentioned “values”The furlough disgrace was nottin more then the Americans being greedy btards and getting that completely and utterly wrong in insulting us all. (I more blame Morre as he's 'supposed' to be the Scouser among them who should know the values of the people in the City and what we stand for.). That's still a sore point with many of us and has sadly gone a long way to knocking down the trust in them they'd built up over all the good work they've done the past 4 years or so after going all-in on Klopp and changing their whole method of operation.
We're, down to in large part to taking things slowly at the start with money ball principles as you mentioned, now in just about the healthiest position the football clubs ever been. On and off the pitch. Totally self-sufficient. What we spend is what we earn. Their business model is pretty much perfect and the financial rewards on the pitch are seeing the club fly up the most valuable club/ highest-earning club list with record profits being posted year-on-year. The record-breaking new kit deal with Nike which puts profits back in the clubs own hands from the 20% of all sales/ 15% on footwear on top of the initial £30 million and bonus payments, is another glaring example of the coffers continuing to roll n. We're just approaching the end of the £50 million redevelopment of Kirkby to move all age groups into one facility, ala your training complex, with work then to start on redeveloping the Anfield Road end. (They naturally only commit to one project at a time.). But all the great off-field improvements to the ground and other facilities doesn't impact on other areas of the club financially. They don't take any dividends out either which is a massive plus. Sure, at some point if they ever do sell, they'll rake in a glorious profit. But they aren't taken out of the club like say, the Glaziers do three or four times a year which is a massive difference.
And with a great aged squad (the strongest we've had at any time in the PL era) /most all tied down for the 5 years or so, along with burgeoning youth being given its head already, the need to have to buy to any significant degree just isn't there.
I'm sure, like every club, they'll have to make some changes to accommodate the unprecedented times we are now sadly in. But I've no fear that the model they have in place will sustain them as well as anyone through this the way we do our business.
We're set up, on and off the pitch, for long term sustainability to challenge for major honours season-on-season. For all the dip in popularity that needs to built back up after the furlough carnage with many of us, nobody now disputes, after learning from their early mistakes, that the club couldn't be in any better hands off the pitch.
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