Onholiday(somemightsay)
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The headless horseman........... :-)
Liverpool thread 2020/21
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Onholiday(somemightsay)
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Still currently working their way through the Patrick Berger money...........
There will be millions of new PSG fans tonight in Liverpool, Norway, and around the World, supporting a team and a club owned by the Qataris.
And the Coach Wreckers won't give a toss about human rights as they celebrate any PSG goal.
www.amnesty.org
And the Coach Wreckers won't give a toss about human rights as they celebrate any PSG goal.
QATAR 2020
New laws were passed offering migrant workers better legal protections. Despite government measures to control the spread of COVID-19, migrant workers bore the brunt of the pandemic’s impact. The authorities further tightened restrictions on freedom of expression. Women continued to face discrimination in law and practice. Executions resumed after a 20-year hiatus.
Human rights in Qatar
Stay up to date on the state of human rights in Qatar with the latest research, campaigns and education material from Amnesty International.
www.amnesty.org
There will be millions of new PSG fans tonight in Liverpool, Norway, and around the World, supporting a team and a club owned by the Qataris.
And the Coach Wreckers won't give a toss about human rights as they celebrate any PSG goal.
QATAR 2020
New laws were passed offering migrant workers better legal protections. Despite government measures to control the spread of COVID-19, migrant workers bore the brunt of the pandemic’s impact. The authorities further tightened restrictions on freedom of expression. Women continued to face discrimination in law and practice. Executions resumed after a 20-year hiatus.
Human rights in Qatar
Stay up to date on the state of human rights in Qatar with the latest research, campaigns and education material from Amnesty International.
Don’t get dragged into it mate, everyone knows human rights are seasonal as far as the dippers are concerned.
Metalartin
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Isn't that pretty much the reason Saudi got involved with Yemen in the first place and dragged the UAE into it by association? No Iran setting up a proxy government, no war in Yemen or at least not like we've seen.
Not to mention their funding of the Hezbollah for years and when links between the two appear, it becomes more obvious what Iran are doing:
https://www.thenationalnews.com/wor...s-raise-nearly-300-000-for-hezbollah-1.889034
http://www.thetower.org/article/mee...preads-its-empire-through-terrorist-militias/
To me, it appears that Iran are just as powerful as Saudi, their human rights record is still worse than Qatar and the UAE last I checked and they are just as involved in most of the conflicts in that part of the world as Saudi are. They just prefer to do things behind the scenes with their money and influence. Anything they want done, they like to keep their name out of it and if their name does come up, it will be hard to prove. You can tell they are aligned with Russia.
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Metalartin
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Why are they using Euros for an English club which uses GBP? To show bigger values and leave out the currency symbols in their little poxy lists perhaps? Also, what room has he to talk, conveniently selecting his moaning point at £50m, when one of Liverpool's CB's cost nearly 2 of ours in that list?
"In our history City have never spent close to £80m on one defender Liverpool and United both have, so nerr" Petty cunts.
It's not a good thing that Dejan Lovren is their second most expensive defender either. It shows what happened to them this season, was inevitable and if they don't spend to strengthen the depth of that defence soon, they could continue to go backwards in that area. I'm not sure VVD returning, is a guarantee that those players will return to the level he dragged them to again, after falling so far off the standard for so long.
Anyway lets just add it all together and see what we have, shall we?
Total is £368.19m, for the above mentioned players. We'd have to include Zinchenko, who was not really bought as a defender but he has been part of our defence for years now, cost £1.8m. He's preferred over Mendy who hasn't worked out since his injury in his first season with us 4 years ago - But "Pep just goes out and spends" doesn't he? No, if Pep has quality to work with he can and will make do with what he has.
Total is £369.99m, for one of the best defences in Europe right now. Outside of Mendy, you'd have to say it was good business on all of those signings, can many of those other teams say the same?
Manchester United
Harry Maguire - £78.30m
Victor Lindelöf - £31.50m
Eric Bailly - £34.20m
Luke Shaw - £33.75m
Aaron Wan-Bissaka - £49.50m
Phil Jones - £17.37m
Alex Telles - £13.50m
Total is £258.25m, for a defence which on one of their current squad's best seasons, it has conceded only 4 goals less than Liverpool's without VVD, 2 goals less than Arsenal's, Chelsea have conceded 4 goals less. Also, do they really only have one right back? Not only is the quality of the starting back 4 lower but their cover is lacking too, even compared to other teams. They've been lucky with injuries by the looks of it, maybe that could come back to bite them, like it has City and Liverpool in recent seasons. Personally, I actually think Leicester and Villa probably have better defences than them, with more depth to cover for injuries.
There's no denying City have spent a lot on their defence but they've spent well for the most part. However, what is always overlooked, is the fact that Pep had to correct many mistakes of the previous manager's transfers in that area and that it's harder to find bargains when pressed for time. Side-backs are where you can find your bargains with some patience but not many of the top clubs have found bargains at CB because they seem in short supply(maybe we need to hire Leicester's defender scouts or hack them... "the Liverpool way").
How many managers have had to deal with as much as Pep did when he came to City? 4 side-backs needed replacing at once because of age(bad planning, left City with a lot to do in very little time). Otamendi, he got the best season he's ever given us out of atleast but he quickly declined after that. Kompany couldn't stay fit as much as he used to, nothing Pep could do there. Mangala was Mangala and near impossible to shift off the books . Denayer and Tosin were unproven and nowhere near ready for PL football.
Nobody can say City didn't need to spend again after Kompany left either, it was a mistake not bringing in Dias(or someone like him) sooner if anything. We might not have bought Ake if we had IMO, who was an insurance policy, bought early in the window. In case everyone priced us out, which looked a possibility for a while. We could easily make most of what we paid on Ake back, if we wanted to sell.
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The only figure that matters is points in the league and trophies won. Pep has spent money but he has potentially 3 league titles 4 league cup and an Fa cup.
How much money have United spent in that time and won nothing, struggled to qualify for the champions league and when they do qualify they are out before Christmas. Football is an arms race, if you don’t spend you get left behind Chelsea went big last summer and are starting to see the rewards of it, you don’t reach a champions league semi final by chance and they will be a threat in the league next year.
Liverpool fans shouldn’t be crying about City, they should be crying about their owners didn’t they have bigger revenues than City recently? Where’s the money going? Straight in their owners pocket and not being invested in the playing side of the operation. If you don’t keep refreshing the squad you and up where the dippers are now, scrapping for 4th place with nothing else to play for.
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Because they are Scouse not English
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All good points with the addition that the US gov instigated the fight against Iranian money laundering and the fines you refer to.
Since Pool are US owned does that tell us anything about said owners?
Apart from when the World Cup and European Championships are taking place.
Then they are English all of a sudden.
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