Liverpool Thread - 2021/22

[M18CTID]

You wouldn't think so the way the Sky director f*cked around with the levels on the effects microphones.

Agreed. Even when they were out-singing their lot, our fans sounded like they were in a different postcode to Anfield at times

 

[Tommy_Catons_Perm]

I could’ve sworn Leicester won a trophy more recently than Liverpool too. I wonder if they’ve got no fans as well.

No other club has any fans at all. Except Chelsea had some fans once and they went to a Liverpool match.

 

[Northblue]

Popped over there to have a nosey and saw a disgusting post in the City thread describing the likes of Norwich and Southampton as ‘pointless clubs’. Fair play to the couple of posters that pulled him up on it, but that’s unfortunately the prevailing attitude of much of their fan base. The guy tried to subsequently recant, but his first instinct was to use that phrase. Says a lot about the way he thinks.

It‘s not just City who they look down their nose at. It’s any club that isn’t part of their closed shop. Absolutely reprehensible attitude.

All clubs have a point. Anyone who doesn’t appreciate that is a fucking ****.

Fucking idiot, pointless club Southampton who they poached 2 of their current top 3 players from

 

[Northblue]

If ever a post on RAWK backed up what you've said - apart from the one you've referenced - then this one below in their Anfield atmosphere thread completely sums some of that lot up. There are so many things wrong with it that I don't know where to begin. The lack of knowledge regarding the long standing members of our fanbase, along with a complete lack of self-awareness about their own support and the overriding sense of self-entitlement literally beggars belief. Apparently City fans aren't that "well travelled" and we have a "core fan culture bereft of pedigree", plus Liverpool fans have experienced many highs and lows. Does this prick not realise that no Liverpool fan who is currently alive has seen their team plumb depths remotely as low as we've witnessed following City and let''s remember these are the fuckers who deserted their club in their thousands because they couldn't stomach 6 months of Roy Hodgson managing them. There's also the usual digs at Everton thrown in for good measure. The only thing he gets remotely correct is that we have been bitter towards United down the years but so have United fans towards us even when they were winning everything and we were dogshit. The difference is that City fans will readily admit that, whereas United fans don't. Oh, and he's pretty much spot on that Liverpool's "true core support probably still has more similarities" to United's than differences. That's because, generally speaking, both fanbases are full of self-entitled, arrogant, sanctimonious cunts you fucking bellend!

Yes, I'd definitely agree with that.

I've long believed we hate each other because we often mirror each other. We have more similarities than differences at core level. A bit like how twins can sometimes be big rivals rather than supportive siblings. Also similarly to the twins scenario, jealousy can come into play. Much of their hatred of us was borne out of the overwhelming envy they had of us in the 70s and 80s. Honestly, we ate them up from the inside.

Their club started going in a direction we found laughable at the time. They were better at selling branded pencil cases than winning trophies. They made money whilst we paraded all over the country and Europe winning silverware. The sheer jealousy in them was off the scale and, even now in 2021, they've never got over that. Luckily for them, the vacuous, brand, label, money, commercial obsessed age was just around the corner, and when it arrived they were best placed to capitalise. By the time the pompous, overblown monstrosity of the Sky/Premier League greedfest kicked in, United were best placed.

Our hatred of them was generally less intense going by my own lived experience. We generally had respect for the old United. The Busby era. Best, Charlton, Law etc... However, we had no respect for the media that surrounded United in the decades when Liverpool swept the board, and no respect for how their jealousy manifested itself through their attitudes towards us. United were at best average and little more than a cup side, yet they were lauded as though they were the best in the land at a time when they were a shambles that was better at selling merch than playing football. All that rankled with us because our achievements were played down, as were those of Forest, Everton etc while United had lavish, undeserved headlines heaped upon them despite being a football laughing stock. We despised the media creation United had become.

Despite all the above, I think our true core support probably still has more similarities than differences. For me, City fans have always been more like the modern day bitter bluenose from across the park. Basically, more obsessed with their local rival than anything else. Insular, angry and forever complaining. Far less cultured and far less travelled. I've only known one City fan in my lifetime. Old school, a really nice fella too, but the focus was always on their bitterness towards their local rival.

City always wanted to be liked, so would cozy up to clubs that had a big rivalry with United. As you said, they'd always want us to join their ''Stand up if you hate Man U'' chants. I suppose it's very much like how our very own Bitters next door try to get other fanbases on their side with anti-LFC stuff online and/or in grounds. It's just smaller fanbases with narrower outlooks trying to gain allies in order to feel part of something bigger.

Liverpool and United have vastly outgrown their local rivalries. Both clubs and fanbases are generally very much outward-looking and have core fan cultures that reflect this. No matter how much money dodgy dealers throw at the likes of City or Everton, they just cannot buy that. The 'club' now known as Abu Dhabi have all the money in the world, but a core fan culture bereft of pedigree. If there were trophies for incessant whingeing and whining, their fans would sweep the board though.

 

[wolviedinho]

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Send in the Saudis ;)

 

[mat]

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So true.

 

[city2]

First target for Newcastle will be Salah now that would boil some piss

 

[LongsightM13]

The absolute skip fire state of RAWK tonight, their City and Newcastle threads are sight to behold.
Historical revisionism and thinly veiled racism abounds.
Apparently now they were by far the better team on Sunday, their hacking and cheating anti-competition American franchise model/ESL architects are in fact model owners and we are the murderers and chronic moaners/victims.
They really don’t do irony or self reflection over there, do they?

 

[Bill the Blue]

Just want to say in my humble opinion, the dippers are without doubt the most detested club I English football..!

 

[LongsightM13]

The club is a reflection on, and product of, the culture of the city.
Like the club and its fanbase, liverpool as a city is riddled with contradictions and cognitive dissonance. A city built on denial. Lies. Hypocrisy.
It is a bipolar place which begets a collective schizophrenia.
A formerly global port city which boasts about its outward looking view of the world - “der Beatles listened to blues records from America off der boats” which is pure self serving myth and bullshit- but which has historically been a hotbed of brazen, aggressive racism against everyone from the early Chinese settlers to the black population of the present day.
Liverpool remains an extremely racist city. Much more so than here and much worse than any big city north of, say, Northampton.
A city quite literally built on the slave trade which has only in the last few years even acknowledged, admitted and begun the process of accepting and dealing with its shameful past.
A city whose population is largely built on Irish catholic immigration but which has its key institutions rooted in protestant unionism and sectarian hatred, which still had orange marches until the last decade or so.
And even amongst the Irish diaspora, the liverpool Irish are considered the worst of the worst. They are considered to fall into two camps - the laziest/thickest and the criminals/predators.
The laziest because they were the few Irish people who stopped in the very first place they arrived in Britain. The ones who couldn’t be arsed to venture forth and seek better opportunities elsewhere in this strange and alien land they found themselves in.
The brave, the ambitious and the enterprising moved on sharpish. The laziest, the thickest and the most cowardly remained in liverpool, close to the ferry back home.
Not all though. The criminal elements from Dublin and Cork sensed lucrative opportunities to prey on their fellow countrymen, especially the less sophisticated new arrivals from the west of Ireland. So these Irish criminals settled around the Scotland Road area, robbing and fleecing their fellow countrymen while pretending to be their helpful new friends. Their descendants remain there today and liverpool revels in their ‘craftiness’, while at the same time becoming outraged if anyone from without calls out their genetic dishonesty.
Thieves, con artists and predators going back generations who have fed into the culture of the city. And they are allowed to revel in it but nobody else is allowed to even suggest it.

TL:DR: They are lazy crooked loons and you can’t reason with them