Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

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BobbyJohnstone said:
They’ve weaponised the Hillsborough disaster. Any slight criticism of them and they whip out the Hillsborough defence. An utterly crass support who every year treat the date of the tragedy like some sort of celebration, Bradford and Rangers do memorial with a bit of dignity and respect. Can’t wait till the Hillsborough guilt wears off.
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It’s the most disrespectful part of the whole episode. To use a tragedy as a weapon & that’s what they accuse opposing fans of without the slightest of irony.
 
feelymcfeel said:
After jibbing in in Athens
And jibbing in Paris (pronounce paree)
After killings fans at Heysel
And people with concrete

They were wanking into fountains
Wankers in Istanbul
Always are the victims
Fucking Liverpool

Allez allez allez etc...

Have to fudge some pronunciation for rhyming sake but it fits, flows, and doesn't mention Hillsborough.
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Given that people died at Heysel, that's still offensive.

If a friend or family member of yours had died, would you really want some fans singing about it, just to wind up another football club?
 
Oh yeah. I mean it’s not like loads of have supported the HJC over the years, or Everton fans lost friends and family that day. A minority of idiots make Hillsborough jokes but they always get shot down. Most of us have no time for that sort of thing.
 
Gone for a Burton said:
Fuck off, if you don’t know why it’s sung you don’t know of our history with these odious rats.

It’s not even a recent issue, they have been vile,violent, lawless bastards for as long as I can remember and I’m 72 !!
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I am 77 this year and you are spot on.
 
paulchapo said:
If I'm not mistaken I think this song was first sung to them by the rags. I could be wrong of course. The first time I ever heard us sing it was in the 5-0 game. This was when that scum booed Ederson when he was lying with half his face ripped open, being given oxygen after being booted in the face by Mane. They did this to try and make out he was faking it and influence not getting Mane sent off. There was real anger that day and that's the first time I heard us sing it.

Regarding that club and fanbase in my opinion nothing is off the table. They have created that mindset amongst our fans and probably fans of other clubs by their constant criminal and lowlife behaviour. If the football authorities and police did something about it then fair enough, but they don't. If the media called them out on it then fair enough, but they don't. If their own club condemned it and apologised and did something about it, fair enough, but they don't. Now there is only so many times people can keep getting slapped in the face and taken the piss out of before deciding to hit back. That's human nature. We can give it all the "Two wrongs don't make a right/we don't have to stoop to their behaviour" speeches until the cows come home. Everybody know it but if a bully is allowed to carry on bullying with impunity then fuck it the rules go out of the window. There is only so many times you can turn the other cheek.

If they think that song is about Hillsborough and it upsets them so much how about we sing one that's true, about Heysel? 39 victims never going home, definitely your fault it's time to fucking own." Now I consider that worse than the Always the victims song, but they can't have it all ways, we're not the Liverpool Echo.

No, time and time again we've done the right thing, showed respect and bent over backwards for that club, only to have it thrown back in our faces. There's no more fucks to give except fuck them.
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They really are a shit fanbase - they could never be loyal fans in bad times - like our fans have been.

Here are some typical posts from the entitled fuckers - on the match-thread FFS:

Quote from: Adeemo on April 1, 2023, 02:35:59 pm
Decided to power wash the patio rather than watch the match, correct decision.
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I cleaned the fishpond.


There are loads like that - some fanbase
 
BobbyJohnstone said:
They’ve weaponised the Hillsborough disaster. Any slight criticism of them and they whip out the Hillsborough defence. An utterly crass support who every year treat the date of the tragedy like some sort of celebration, Bradford and Rangers do memorial with a bit of dignity and respect. Can’t wait till the Hillsborough guilt wears off.
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But show no respect for the Heysel victims by having a parade through their Cess Pool on the aniversary day. Have LFC ever apologised for that Faux Pas? I am disgusted with those in charge at MCFC for constantly sucking up to those Feral Bus Wrecking Twats.
 
halfcenturyup said:
And the people that actually watch them?
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I feel sorry for them but I think they fall into one of two categories:

1) Foreign fans that want to feel as if they belong with these “proper” fans without understanding the proper fans are either at the game or watching the game without the need of self-aggrandisement (and income).

2) People that record it for the sole purpose of schadenfreude.
 
Ted_Bovis said:
Ha! Me too. Did you play another take deck next to your recorder to insert music too?
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No no no! I was trying to be authentic!

I had a record player and could record on to my blank cassettes I’d bought and I’d use a pair of Walkman head phones as a microphone. My station played mostly Queens greatest hits :-) and I had a quiet storm hour with Belinda Carlisle and tpau.

With adverts for my sisters Rose petal home made eu de parfum.
 
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BobbyJohnstone said:
They’ve weaponised the Hillsborough disaster. Any slight criticism of them and they whip out the Hillsborough defence. An utterly crass support who every year treat the date of the tragedy like some sort of celebration, Bradford and Rangers do memorial with a bit of dignity and respect. Can’t wait till the Hillsborough guilt wears off.
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cheekybids said:
It’s the most disrespectful part of the whole episode. To use a tragedy as a weapon & that’s what they accuse opposing fans of without the slightest of irony.
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I've posted the following on here before and I think it's worth doing so again

After LFC won the prem a couple of seasons ago, the group of "mature" lads I played football with had a discussion on WhatsApp regarding the feral behaviour of the supporters who set the Liver building on fire.
One press report said it was a stray firework. I pointed out that LFC supporters get away with outrageous antics and the press always make excuses for them "it's never their fault" I also linked the article (the idiot who was filmed setting the fireworks off was convicted a couple of months ago)
After sending the message into the group chat, I was immediately called out by a couple of scousers who accused me of disrespectful language in regards to the Hillsborough victims
I did however receive this message from a really nice bloke who follows Liverpool home and away (the parade he speaks about is the CL from the season before where they were practically rioting)

I am sure those Liverpool fans aren’t the only bellends that follow clubs. But I have seen this sort of thing with LFC fans before. In Barcelona and Basel and at the parade last year. They think they can do whatever they want and won’t get punished and the Club need to call it out because it is getting out of hand and giving us a bad name and rightly so. I was in the seats above the pens at Hillsborough and saw what happened. I also had to get through the pissed up thousands outside with no tickets trying to force their way in. My take on Hillsborough is a bit different from the majority of Liverpool fans and not that popular. There was blame on all sides but the avoidance of accountability and the length of time to get to the truth is the shameful part and you have to respect the families and Dalglish for fighting to get justice. It was tragic and a tragedy. The new generation of fans need to respect the memory of the 96 and act accordingly rather than using it as an excuse to justify their perceived victim status which they wear as a badge. Rant over. See you next time
 
He will get a free pass Klopp for what he has done in previous years at Liverpool. However questions need to be asked about what’s going on at Liverpool and I don’t see any pundits calling it out. They’ve spent on attacking players in the summer and also the winter transfer window, they have Jota who yes is coming back from injury but hasn’t scored a goal in nearly 12 months. They gave the wrong player a new contract in Salah and let Mane go.Nunez who they outlaid big money on isn’t even trusted to start and is seen as some type of impact player.

Their midfield is awful, as soon as I saw their three in the middle of the park I was confident City would win. They’ve lost that ability to work hard without the ball and peg teams in their final third. The confidence of players who have done so well for them in the last five years such as Alexander-Arnold and Van Dyjk has evaporated away.

All in all this comes down to the manager, why did he naively go to City playing so open when they’ve only won three games away from home all season? Why has he stockpiled all those players who can play across the front three when there is nothing behind them to make them difficult to beat?

There seems to be an acceptance of this defeat by their fans and media lackeys by pointing at Rodri being sent off. The ref was letting the physical stuff go, Fabinho could have easily walked for some of the challenges he was putting in, how many times in the past have their players got away with it most notably Milner and Fabinho in the games we played them last season?

What’s the plan at Liverpool? Are they going back to what they were since the Premier league was created, a team that occasionally gets up for the big games but never competes for the big trophies?
 
football365 is a hit miss hotch potch of a website, but this article from 3 days before the game is pretty spot on - van Dijk deceiving nobody anymore, it seems

www.football365.com

Van Dijk nonchalance leads to extremes as arrogance confused with decline

Virgil van Dijk has always played with arrogance. But while his nonchalance previously had us drooling it now has us questioning whether he gives a damn.
www.football365.com www.football365.com
 
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