Liverpool thread

[paulchapo]

The gap is getting bigger and their famous history getting dimmer in people's memory. Unless they buy four TOP quality players and get a top manager quickly they may be also rans forever.

 

[superseiyan]

Most American owners have misjudged it.The Glazers, who've done the best, got very lucky with Baconface who papered over the cracks caused by their lack of investment. Ellis Short, Randy Lerner, Stan Kroenke, Shahid Khan at Fulham - all of them thought you could just spend a little bit of money and grab that top 4 spot with its CL riches.

Two summers ago, with the Suarez money, Liverpool were in a position to buy 3 or 4 top-quality players. Instead they went out and bought a load of crap - mid-table PL players, unproven young foreign players & Balotelli. They claimed they didn't have enough squad depth for the CL but that should have been the last of their worries. Retaining 4th place should have been a much higher priority than strengthening for the CL (which they still fucked up).

There was no excuse to go from Sanchez to Remy to Balotelli. We should've made Sanchez/Barca an offer they couldn't refuse. "The girlfriend won't let me" thing is an excuse we men trot out selectively when it's convenient.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Most American owners have misjudged it.The Glazers, who've done the best, got very lucky with Baconface who papered over the cracks caused by their lack of investment. Ellis Short, Randy Lerner, Stan Kroenke, Shahid Khan at Fulham - all of them thought you could just spend a little bit of money and grab that top 4 spot with its CL riches.

Two summers ago, with the Suarez money, Liverpool were in a position to buy 3 or 4 top-quality players. Instead they went out and bought a load of crap - mid-table PL players, unproven young foreign players & Balotelli. They claimed they didn't have enough squad depth for the CL but that should have been the last of their worries. Retaining 4th place should have been a much higher priority than strengthening for the CL (which they still fucked up).

well I'd argue Short, Lerner and to a lesser extent due to his brief ownership, Khan, have all spent sizable sums of money compared to their club's size. The problem for them has been poor management, poor choice of players and managers which has cause them to get burned and thus put the cheque book away. If they'd run them properly from day 1 those clubs would be a lot further on than they are now. I'd even argue Liverpool have spent a fuck load of money (gross), but the net is irrelevant anyway, because the reason they're bad is not because they've been tight, but because they've wasted the money they have spent. Again it's poor management, not wallet withdrawal symptoms. Receiving the Suarez money and banking the lot is tight, spending it on a load of shite is just poor management.

 

[IH8MUFC]

Watched him play? Of course I did and never rated him, had a few good games but most players do. When the best that can be said about a player is " he works hard and always gives 100%" Then, IMHO they arent good enough! Looks like he agred as he went there to get games which with the new signings here his cahnces would be few Dont like the way he has never acknowledge his time here and totally emcompassed the Liverpool way. But good luck to him as he never let us down, always gave 100%

So you don't think that he played better against better opposition.

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

Spoke with a red scouser on holiday in the summer and he was saying what a signing Milner was, but told him Milner was like a Swiss Army knife good at a lot of things but not quality at one in other words he was good at covering different positions but was not the best in any one.

Also told him that the only way they would go with Rodgers was backwards and they needed someone with a tactical brain.

Being proved right with both

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

Milner is a very good player when surrounded by better players. Won't take a game by the scruff of the neck where he's the main man, but will stand on the shoulders of giants and perform well/integrate with the team ethos (different to say Nasri). He's like a 'luxury player', but not of the flair variety.

 

[mad4city]

Interesting that they still vilify Dirk Kuyt. From the outside looking in, I always thought the guy was a goal-threat, even if he was never going to be Ronaldinho.
Hard to know why they have a gripe with him - and bizarre that they should still have after all these years. I seem to recall that he got more than a few late goals that dug them out of the shit on occasions. Yet when St Stevie did it, it was a blessing from on high.

 

[FanchesterCity]

Spoke with a red scouser on holiday in the summer and he was saying what a signing Milner was, but told him Milner was like a Swiss Army knife good at a lot of things but not quality at one in other words he was good at covering different positions but was not the best in any one.

Also told him that the only way they would go with Rodgers was backwards and they needed someone with a tactical brain.

Being proved right with both

A red scouser on holiday?
Tell him to use sun cream in future.
Mind you, sunburn will be nothing compared with the pain they'll be going through in the coming years.

 

[Vienna_70]

Spoke with a red scouser on holiday in the summer and he was saying what a signing Milner was, but told him Milner was like a Swiss Army knife good at a lot of things but not quality at one in other words he was good at covering different positions but was not the best in any one.

That's a very good analogy.

I liked Jimmy Milner, and even though I once called him 'A Jack of all Trades and Master of None', it wasn't meant to be in a derogatory way, but as a compliment because he was a very valuable member of our squad due to his versatility.

But, he's made his bed. Now he has to lie in it, even if it is shitty.

 

[Gordyola]

So you don't think that he played better against better opposition.

No I don't recall him being better in general against better teams