Local Elections 2023

[Eccles Blue]

You are right to pull me up for my overly strident 'no evidence whatsoever'. It would have been more accurate to say it's not a material problem. There will always be the occasional issue but in the last GE in 2019 we had one person convicted of electoral fraud. So though the Electoral Commission agrees with the idea of voter ID they have also said they don't actually think we have a significant issue with voter fraud in this country.

Personally I don't have an issue with voter id in principle. My issue is that it's virtually irrelevant compared to other more critical areas of electoral reform but yet it has been prioritised in an utterly cynical fashion.

I’m sorry it wasn’t meant to be pulling you up just that I vaguely remembered something about Oldham so looked it up.
Sorry. :-)

Your last paragraph says it all really. We need a total reform but it won’t happen in my lifetime I’m afraid. :-( :-)

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

Only busy twats and people seeking weird power would want to be a local councillor

 

[threespires]

My WhatsApp chat groups rule me out of ever being a Councillor! Scandal waiting to happen.

As if a bit of WhatsApp scandal disqualifies you from high(low) office these days! Unless you've been sacrificing virgins and even then a brief statement along the lines of '"it's regrettable that some people have been upset by my sacrificing of virgins" should do the trick.

 

[Kompany Car]

Don’t know how much weight you can put on the local election results. My voting was purely focused towards local issues rather than national ones.

 

[threespires]

I’m sorry it wasn’t meant to be pulling you up just that I vaguely remembered something about Oldham so looked it up.
Sorry. :-)

Your last paragraph says it all really. We need a total reform but it won’t happen in my lifetime I’m afraid. :-( :-)

Don't apologise Eccles, you were factually correct and I wasn't.

Re your last point, part of me thinks that the best result at the next GE would be Labour needing the Lib Dems to govern and the reconsideration of PR being the price they have to pay. Which would be a start. I live in hope :-)

 

[BlueHammer85]

What’s the rough turnout % of the Uk ?

 

[Vic]

Only busy twats and people seeking weird power would want to be a local councillor

A lot of good people don't want to be councillors because of the abuse they will get from people who make silly assumptions.

 

[Vic]

maybe i'm just hoping too much, or not taking the positives, but some councils are still returning 50% tory councilors (and some are still Tory majority). I mean, that's a lot of votes for a wretchedly corrupt and racist party.

No Tory anywhere is getting 50% support from the electorate. Non voters decide who wins.

 

[Vic]

Don’t know how much weight you can put on the local election results. My voting was purely focused towards local issues rather than national ones.

Local issues largely to do with managing cuts because of Tory national policies.

 

[jimharri]

If people refuse to vote then nothing will change and those in power will assume the people are OK with what they are doing.

Correct. Of course, people have a right not to vote, for whatever reason. That's the beauty of living in a democracy; you're not bundled down to the polling station and told "vote, or else" (and maybe who to vote for). But if you choose not to vote, you (for me, anyway) forfeit your right to whine about the outcome of whatever the vote was for.