Local Elections

[Ancient Citizen]

As for the rest of your post, it would be a good essay question for a university student studying politics.

 

[KS55]

Corbyn apparently on the train on Sunday talking to commuters asking for their opinion .... just moving through the train and chatting politics


could you imagine May doing that ?

Presumably he couldnt get a seat.

 

[arbabarshad]

I think it's you that needs the reality check.

The fact that Labour aren't in power now after the most ham fisted campaign by the May led Tories at the last election and total mess they're making of the Brexit negotiations is proof that Labour are an even bigger shambles under Corbyn.

If you can't see that, there's no hope for you. You're as deluded as the Trumpers in America.

If the "so called" media supported Corbyn and labour like they did Torres, labour would have a majority government with Corbyn as the PM.

 

[west didsblue]

If the "so called" media supported Corbyn and labour like they did Torres, labour would have a majority government with Corbyn as the PM.

If you say so.
I can only remember Torres getting media support when he was at Liverpool but not when he went to Chelsea.

 

[west didsblue]

But it's not.

So you think former Labour voters no longer vote Labour for a different reason? What would that be?

It's not, it's basic stuff, you don't hear about it that's all and that's quite deliberate.

Why would it need to be in the media when we're all so well versed in Atomism and Triangulation in politics?

 

[Ancient Citizen]

If the "so called" media supported Corbyn and labour like they did Torres, labour would have a majority government with Corbyn as the PM.

If anyone actually bothered to read the turgid shite offered up by the left wing media, he'd have an
even better chance.

 

[KS55]

Please enlighten us all as to your views on the attempt by Clive Lewis and Jon Cruddas to unite the various factions in the Labour party, as part of a progressive alliance.

Or your thoughts on whether Prospect are helping or hindering a Labour victory.

Why do you think the "third way" has a chance of succeeding when it is being rejected across all the western democracies? Or do you think its time has come again?

Do you think we'll ever see again the kind of social contract that dominated British politics from the end of the 2nd World War until the 1970's? Or do you think the atomisation of society means there's no society to contract with?

Don't you think triangulation in politics has had its day?

Or do you just think Corbyn is a c**t?

Triangulation is certainly not dead, but maybe it is out of fashion currently as some really tricky characters have given it a bad name, Blair, Clinton etc
However it has a very long history going back at least to classical greek philosophy.....thesis/anti thesis/ synthesis.
Bolsheviks, Nazis, Fascists, all used the technique. Such a long, and some would say, dishonourable, history suggests it is not dead, just sleeping. The progressive alliance will fail even to get off the ground, current thinking on both left and right is too strongly ideological to allow that....Corbynism, Thatcherism etc. But triangulation will be back.

 

[The perfect fumble]

So you think former Labour voters no longer vote Labour for a different reason? What would that be?

False consciousness.

 

[west didsblue]

False consciousness.

There's a surprise. It can all be explained by a Marxist theory that people are too dumb to realise what's good for them.

 

[The perfect fumble]

There's a surprise. It can all be explained by a Marxist theory that people are too dumb to realise what's good for them.

No, that's not it.