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Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Hamann Pineapple, 29 Nov 2019.
No. This is what happens when someone mentions a pub, GDM then talks boozers for a few hours.
The fact one hero was a convicted murderer on day release is going to blow the minds of the amateur sentencing reform sleuths prowling Twitter today
"One hero was a jailed murderer on day release". What a fascinating sentence.
Fair enough, mate. Easy to get sidetracked, but yeah.
I do, but probably not the best time and place.
Cockney rag throwing his season ticket away didn't want to be embarrassed if they surched him
We have always had control over our borders.
Unfortunately, we have as a nation, left France and Belgium to do our job for us (largely successfully) for a very long time.
As for the fire extinguisher,it's a good weapon
1 you can blind/,disorient them with it
2..it's a fking heavy tool to smack fk out off someone
And yet we criticise, for example, China for proscribing certain religious groups...
The 'Goodyear Direction' (2005) is at the root of this terrorist's early release. "At the time of his sentencing, the judge warned that he was a "serious jihadist" who should not be released while he remained a threat to the public."
"Terror gang who plotted to blow up London Stock Exchange could be free in six years
A terrorist gang involved in a plot to blow up the London Stock Exchange, the American Embassy and the home of Boris Johnson could be free in just six years.
By Mark Hughes, Tom Whitehead and Duncan Gardham
01 Feb 2012
The group of four Qaeda-inspired fundamentalists admitted planning to send mail bombs to their targets during the run up to Christmas 2010 and discussed launching a Mumbai-style attack on Parliament. But they could all be out after just six years after the two ringleaders of the group were given an indication of their sentences before deciding whether or not to plead guilty. Mohammed Chowdhury, described as the group’s “lynchpin”, and Shah Rahman, his accomplice, pleaded guilty following a so-called Goodyear hearing where the judge gave them an indication of their maximum sentences should they plead guilty.
The judge, Mr Justice Wilkie, told Chowdhury, 21, that he would be sentenced to no more than 13 and half years, while Rahman, 28, was told he would be given 12 and a half years if he admitted his involvement in the plot.
The two, along with fellow conspirators Gurukanth Desai, 30, and Abdul Miah, 25, admitted the charges of preparing for acts of terrorism after being made aware of the sentences they were likely to serve. It was part of a controversial 'Goodyear Direction' which allows defendants to judge whether they should plead guilty, depending on the sentence they are likely to face.
Had they been opted to go to trial instead and been found guilty by a jury, they would likely have been sentenced to approximately 20 years.
But now they could be out in fewer than six years. They will be released automatically at the half-way point in their sentence and spend the remainder on licence. They will also have a year deducted for time already spent on remand. Four of the al-Qaeda inspired men were preparing a Christmas bomb attack on the London Stock Exchange, the American embassy and the home of London Mayor Boris Johnson.
Two of the men conducted a surveillance trip around central London and also talked about launching a Mumbai-style attack on Parliament. A “target list” was found at the home of the ring-leader which listed the names and addresses of Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London, as well as two Rabbis and the American Embassy. It had on it the letters ‘LXC’ for London Stock Exchange. Torn pieces of paper showed a sketch of what is believed to be a car bomb.
Three other men met with the plotters and planned to travel abroad to get more training before returning to launch further attacks. Another two men pleaded guilty to associated charges.The men, from London, Stoke and Cardiff, were inspired by al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsular (AQAP) and used their English-language magazine Inspire as a guide.In Stoke the gang talked about attacking local pubs and clubs but decided to travel abroad to get more training.
In East London, Mohammed Chowdhury, 21, the ring leader, and Shah Rahman, 29, were under surveillance as they toured central London sites for six hours between 3.30pm and 9.30pm on November 28 2010.
They got off a bus in Trafalgar Square and walked along Whitehall towards Westminster. They were observed looking at Big Ben, Westminster Abbey, the Houses of Parliament, the London Eye, Blackfriars Bridge and the Church of Scientology on Queen Victoria Street.
After visiting a McDonalds restaurant on Cannon Street in the City of London, the two men boarded a bus back towards East London. In the bedroom at Chowdhury’s flat in the Isle of Dogs, police found a handwritten target list on a folded piece of A4 paper on the computer desk.
The Stoke group have their origins in Pakistan, while the London and Cardiff groups were originally from Bangladesh. The three groups were inspired by Anwar al-Awlaki, one of the leaders of al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsular, who died in a drone attack last year.
The defendants made contact with each other through dawah – proselytising - or by Paltalk or other internet messaging. Meetings took place in November and December 2010 at which the defendants planned to use explosive devices to attack significant locations in London and around the country. Their plans could be carried out without much preparation and were very difficult to intercept, sources said. The London and Cardiff groups were keen to act quickly, at first talking about sending mail bombs through the Royal Mail and then deciding on a plan to set off bombs in the toilets of the stock exchange.
(Clockwise from top left) Mohammed Shahjahan, Omar Latif (centre), Nazam Hussain, Usman Khan and Mohibur Rahman (PA)
The Stoke group talked about persuading others to take bombs into pubs in their area so that they would explode.
Abdul Miah, 25, said to be at the centre of the Cardiff gang, and his brother Omar Latif, 28, pleaded guilty to taking part in the Stock Exchange plot. Gurukanth Desai, 30, pleaded guilty to attending meetings. Mohibur Rahman, 27, from Stoke pleaded guilty to possession of a document containing information useful to a person preparing an act of terrorism. The charges relate to two editions of al-Qaeda’s English language Inspire magazine.
Usman Khan, 20, Mohammed Shahjahan, 27, and Nazam Hussain, 26, all from Stoke pleaded guilty to preparing acts of terrorism.
At Khan’s home in Persia Walk, Stoke, police officers recovered a folded A4 sheet of paper which bore notes of the structure, roles and responsibilities of individuals in a terrorist cell. It included the headings ‘structure’, ‘responsibilities’, ‘communication’ and ‘local’ and appeared to be written by Shahjahan."
First victim revealed makes this even more tragic, a man who was trying to make a difference and helping run the rehabilitation course that rat bastard was attending.