Losing Tevez is not a disaster for City. ..good read

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<a class="postlink" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/sam-wallace-city-should-stop-appeasing-and-mollycoddling-tevez-they-should-just-get-rid-of-him-2158728.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 58728.html</a>

When Carlos Tevez joined West Ham on the last day of the 2006 summer transfer window with Javier Mascherano – in arguably the most extraordinary episode of illegal transfer-dealing of the last decade – it fell to Alan Pardew, who was the manager at the time, to try to explain it.


"When I met the players I didn't have to sell West Ham United to them," Pardew said. "They knew all about our success last season and our style of play as the Premiership is shown on TV in South America every week."

Unfortunately for Pardew – who it turned out was just as bewildered as to what Tevez was doing at Upton Park as the rest of us – he could not have sounded less convincing had he been standing in Green Street market behind a suitcase of reconditioned mobile phones.

Tevez has made a habit – sometimes unintentionally, sometimes not – of making managers and clubs look daft. In his wake as he has shimmied and feinted his way across English football in the last four years is a trail of rows and fall-outs. Yes, he is a good player but he also comes with a health warning as to his potential effect on a club's sanity.

West Ham? The club had to agree £21m in compensation for breaching the third-party rules on player ownership over Tevez's deal. Manchester United? His provocative gestures to the Old Trafford directors' box were followed shortly by the most rancorous cross-Manchester transfer in history. Manchester City? He wants out.

The latest missive from Planet Tevez – a transfer request to City a week ago today – leaves City with no choice. If they wish to live up to their ambitions to be a club who operate according to the scale and ambitions of Europe's elite; if they want to recruit players who buy into the ethos of the club, then there is only one thing for it. They have to get rid of Tevez.

The disclosure of Tevez's state of mind did rather take the gloss off the day on which City went joint top of the Premier League and there will doubtless be many at the club feeling a little bruised by the experience. The time for trying to talk him out of it, however, has long since passed.

Over the past 19 months, City have mollycoddled and appeased Tevez. They have, as they admitted yesterday, made him the best-paid player at the club. Mancini has given him the captaincy and the club have endured his haughty reaction to being substituted as well as that general sense you get from him that he is doing City a favour by turning out every week.

For his part, the player has cited irreconcilable differences with Roberto Mancini for his dissatisfaction and the strain of being away from his two daughters, who live in Buenos Aires. That second factor does give the debate a different dimension.

Depression can afflict anyone, even those on £250,000-plus-a-week and if Tevez really is prepared to swap a mansion in Cheshire for the relatively modest wage of a domestic footballer in Argentina, then good luck to him. But if he uses that to secure his release and then agitates to go to Real Madrid or Barcelona, he loses the argument immediately.

The consolation for City is that their vast Abu Dhabi resources mean they are much better-placed to deal with a mutinous Tevez than United were in the summer of last year. When Tevez left United, they signed Antonio Valencia, Michael Owen, Mame Biram Diouf and Gabriel Obertan which, given that Cristiano Ronaldo also left, was not the response of a club who could pay whatever it took to sign the best in the world.

City, on the other hand, can sign whoever they like. Of course they have an obligation to negotiate the best possible fee they can for Tevez, – who cost them as much as £45m – which will not be easy if he has his heart set on Boca Juniors, but even if he was to retire and leave them with no compensation, they could still bear the cost.

This latest act of rebellion by Tevez will be used to diminish City and the old charge will be levelled at them they are not big enough – whatever that means – to retain their best players. But the impending departure of Tevez from City, if this is what it comes to, is not the end of the dream for City or the moment that proved they were wrong.

Really it is just another shocking example of how hard it is to manage the whims and problems of the biggest players in the world and their agents. It was only in October that Wayne Rooney pinned Manchester United to the floor with his threats to leave. United decided that they simply could not afford to lose Rooney and raised their offer. City's wealth means they have more options.

City and Mancini must demonstrate the truth of the assertion - one made by their old enemy Sir Alex Ferguson – that a manager can never lose an argument. Or at least can never be seen to lose an argument. That was why Ferguson made sure that, even when Rooney won the game of brinkmanship with United, it was his manager who triumphed in the propaganda battle that followed.

Losing Tevez is not a disaster for City. But bending over backwards to try to keep a player who has acted as if he was too good for the place on far too many occasions – now, that is a disaster.
 
Isn't there another option?

We can devastate Tévez the way he's done us.

Fine, release him from his contract, void anything he's done for us (we keep the goals, just not his attachment, if we can!!) and make him sign a no earning from sponsorship or wages with another club til his contract with us is effectively over or we sue him and his agent.

That makes him nearly 31. Then he can play for Boca quite happily.
 
Bigga said:
Isn't there another option?

We can devastate Tévez the way he's done us.

Fine, release him from his contract, void anything he's done for us (we keep the goals, just not his attachment, if we can!!) and make him sign a no earning from sponsorship or wages with another club til his contract with us is effectively over or we sue him and his agent.

That makes him nearly 31. Then he can play for Boca quite happily.

Somehow I don`t think Tevez has thought this through.Fuckin agent probably has,but not Tevez.
He probably thought he could do a Rooney.
 
but even if he was to retire and leave them with no compensation, they could still bear the cost.

If he retired shirley he'd have to stay retired????

He couldn't retire and then 'change his mind' and sign for someone else...could he?

Also would we receive no compo????
 
Balti said:
but even if he was to retire and leave them with no compensation, they could still bear the cost.

If he retired shirley he'd have to stay retired????

He couldn't retire and then 'change his mind' and sign for someone else...could he?

Also would we receive no compo????

Not sure on that.

People retire and come out of retirement all the time.

That's why I suggested covering that angle.
 
If he retires then there is nothing we can do to stop him.

However, we would still hold his registration and he could not even play on Fog Lane without City releasing him.

Now there are a lot more miles in this whole episode yet, but I would suggest that Carlos and more to the point his agent would not really like to stop earning the vasy sums of money for the remaining period of his contract.

As the article has so correctly stated we are in the fortunate position of having vast wealth and this makes us in charge of our own destiny, we do not have to do what united did with Rooney, he held them over a barrell and won.

Nobody can do that here, yes we could lose a great player but it will not derail the club.
 
oakiecokie said:
And that just about sums it up !!
What a brilliant piece of journalism and no fucking anti City hidden agenda from this piece.
City fans read,divulge and take stock !!

We didn't pay £45m for Tevez.

Another journalist who skews the stats just to make us look bad.
For City players, they add the transfer fee, the agent fee, the salary over the life of the contract and the bonuses...and then say the total as what we "paid" for the player.

For everyone else, its only the transfer fee quoted. Imagine if they used the same "City" maths to calculate how much Ronaldo cost at Madrid?
 

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