Luton Away

[cleavers]

It is a small allocation but success should be based on sporting merit not dictated by how big your ground is.

I've no problem with a club being here on sporting merit, but there should be limits (minimum) on stadium size for the top flight for me. Bournemouth, for example, have been here a while and do nothing about their stadium size, and Luton was a shithole 30 years ago, and they've done nothing (much) to improve theirs either.

Ironically, last time I went there we didn't even sell out the small number of tickets we got.

 

[East Level 2]

They’re building a new one, I think it opens next season.

They've been talking about a new ground since God's dog was a puppy.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I have 29600. My son just over 29200. Always have been in first sales window. Last time we were not in first window was Viktoria Plzen away where we only got 500 tickets and we were second window then.

This time we are third window. All games home and away all cup schemes and platinum but moving down the pecking order.

Will still get tickets but the above shows the decline in availability to the match going fan.

Not bragging or showing off nor being “I’m alright Jack” actually support and applaud the 18-25 scheme and not outraged by the supporters club allocation but when I stand behind 3 non regulars at burnley who say they’ve paid over £1000 each for tickets that’s where questions need to be asked.

The corporates won't be queueing up for a trip to Luton! Plzen was a laugh though. Bought a ticket on the black market but (like Lokeren) no one checked it on the gate. Hundreds of City fans jibbed in to the home fans' stand. It was so crowded I watched the second half from the Director's Box where there were also no checks! I'll have no chance for Luton (26,000 points) but I have been there many times before anyway.

 

[Stephen230]

I'd love to know how many current match-going supporters are genuinely on 31,000 points

My guess is about 30 plus another small group who are benefiting from friends and family (possibly deceased) no longer attending, and keeping their points active.

Nah, way more than that I reckon. I know about a dozen who are around 30,000 just out of my little group of pissheads , and I highly doubt they account for almost 50% of the grand total.

Plus you’ve still got 20 odd on Superbia, who are effectively on maximum points with a plus 1.

 

[franksinatra]

I've no problem with a club being here on sporting merit, but there should be limits (minimum) on stadium size for the top flight for me. Bournemouth, for example, have been here a while and do nothing about their stadium size, and Luton was a shithole 30 years ago, and they've done nothing (much) to improve theirs either.

Ironically, last time I went there we didn't even sell out the small number of tickets we got.

But the problem is if we place minimum capacities on stadiums, to get promoted, in Luton's instance they would be denied a place in the top flight they achieved on sporting merit.

With Luton were talking about a club who 9 years ago were in the conference, 5 years ago in the second division to deny them promotion based on ground capacity, to me, is losing the essence of what football is all about. The romance, rags to riches stories, and the possibility all fanbases/communities can have that one match/season they will never forget.

Also with Luton, like Bournemouth as things stand they are punching above their weight based on club size. Moving grounds/extending capacities might be great for big club fanbases, visiting the ground, but if those clubs fail to keep punching above their weight it can leave them playing, in a few years, in soulless bowls/half empty stadiums. Absolutely soul destroying for their fans. The concept to me of linking promotion to ground capacities sounds pretty elitist.

Which was the Luton game by the way? I went to the 2-2 in 1999 and the City end was sold out (think we got 2200 tickets) so I ended up in the main stand with many other blues.

 

[MCFC Wirral]

It may have been covered elsewhere but what was the Chelsea end like on Sunday?

 

[lancs blue]

I've no problem with a club being here on sporting merit, but there should be limits (minimum) on stadium size for the top flight for me. Bournemouth, for example, have been here a while and do nothing about their stadium size, and Luton was a shithole 30 years ago, and they've done nothing (much) to improve theirs either.

Ironically, last time I went there we didn't even sell out the small number of tickets we got.

Bournemouth's problem is they don't own the land at present, it's leased and the lease has 5 more years to run. They want to build a new stadium of 20,000 capacity but they need to sort the land issue first.

Foley shines light into future stadium plans for Cherries

CHAIRMAN Bill Foley has offered up an insight into the thinking behind Cherries’ future stadium plans.

www.bournemouthecho.co.uk

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

Nah, way more than that I reckon. I know about a dozen who are around 30,000 just out of my little group of pissheads , and I highly doubt they account for almost 50% of the grand total.

Plus you’ve still got 20 odd on Superbia, who are effectively on maximum points with a plus 1.

You might be right, but I know for a fact that at least of the Superbia have sadly since died, which sort-of links to my original point.
I'm not convinced, but we'll never know regardless, as it's not in City's interests to be too transparent.

 

[johnnytapia]

The real issue is allowing that stadium in the PL in the first place.

Sorry that’s bollocks. They’ve earned the right to be in the PL by dint of what they’ve done on the pitch. Let’s not start getting ahead of ourselves and demanding stadia with a certain capacity. The only metric for playing in the PL should be based on being good enough at football. If that means away allocations in the hundreds / low thousands a la Luton, Bournemouth, so be it.

 

[Stephen230]

You might be right, but I know for a fact that at least of the Superbia have sadly since died, which sort-of links to my original point.
I'm not convinced, but we'll never know regardless, as it's not in City's interests to be too transparent.

That last line is correct for sure. I’m not a huge fan of City Matters but the club clearly have no intention of ever wanting the ins and outs of ticket allocations to be public knowledge. So it’s not something they’re ever going to share with them, no matter how often they ask.

 

[Stephen230]

Sorry that’s bollocks. They’ve earned the right to be in the PL by dint of what they’ve done on the pitch. Let’s not start getting ahead of ourselves and demanding stadia with a certain capacity. The only metric for playing in the PL should be based on being good enough at football. If that means away allocations in the hundreds / low thousands a la Luton, Bournemouth, so be it.

Double like.

Always find these posts about Bournemouth awfully entitled. Who the fuck are we to demand other clubs must have this or that capacity? As long as they meet safety standards, it’s no one else’s business.

This pyramid system in England is unique in that fans of every lower and non league club can dream about doing a Luton, Wimbledon or Wigan. And making it to the top. However unlikely it is, it’s still possible.

Having some rule about 25,000 seater stadiums, as I’ve seen suggested on here, would rule out that dream for pretty much all of them, bar a handful who’ve been in the top league relatively recently anyway.

 

[cleavers]

Bournemouth's problem is they don't own the land at present, it's leased and the lease has 5 more years to run. They want to build a new stadium of 20,000 capacity but they need to sort the land issue first.

Foley shines light into future stadium plans for Cherries

CHAIRMAN Bill Foley has offered up an insight into the thinking behind Cherries’ future stadium plans.

www.bournemouthecho.co.uk

Fair enough, but they probably signed the lease not expecting to be in the PL, under a previous owner (russian if I remember correctly ?).

 

[cleavers]

Sorry that’s bollocks. They’ve earned the right to be in the PL by dint of what they’ve done on the pitch. Let’s not start getting ahead of ourselves and demanding stadia with a certain capacity. The only metric for playing in the PL should be based on being good enough at football. If that means away allocations in the hundreds / low thousands a la Luton, Bournemouth, so be it.

Why is it "bollocks" ? If clubs aspire to be in the PL, they should plan for it by having a stadium big enough (minimum 20000 for me). If they can't immediately have a stadium big enough, there should be a minimum of say 2000 away fans in every ground, they have a maximum, so why no minimum ?

It happens in other leagues, down the pyramid, and across europe, and I'm far away from "getting ahead" of myself by the way, but thanks for that generalisation.

None of it makes a difference to me anyway, as I wouldn't get one, even if it was 2000 and I wanted one.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

None of it makes a difference to me anyway, as I wouldn't get one, even if it was 2000 and I wanted on

You think Luton and Bournemouth should build bigger stadiums so that away fans can get more tickets?
I like going to music and comedy gigs in smaller more intimate places.
I'm not overly fond of the large arenas.
That doesn't mean that one is any better than the other.

 

[Bluefen]

Just what the fuck is a “Purchasing Journey” anyway

 

[cleavers]

You think Luton and Bournemouth should build bigger stadiums so that away fans can get more tickets?

I never said that did I ?

I said if they aspire to be in the biggest league, they should plan for a stadium of suitable size (99% manage it).

So if they don't have one, and don't aspire to have one, there still should be a "minimum" amount for away fans (there's a maximum of 10% or 3000), and the rags only give "3000" despite having the biggest stadium (more like 2800 after "segregation" is taken into account), and we're just as bad to be honest.

Like I said a minimum of "2000", because it's not the fault of away fans, that these stadiums aren't a suitable size.

Anyway my last comment on it.

 

[rogerterry]

Become a steward and just ditch the uniform and slip in the away end.

 

[Gray]

Knocks the atmosphere on the head if the proper fans can’t get tickets.

 

[Yankunian]

I have 29600. My son just over 29200. Always have been in first sales window. Last time we were not in first window was Viktoria Plzen away where we only got 500 tickets and we were second window then.

This time we are third window. All games home and away all cup schemes and platinum but moving down the pecking order.

Will still get tickets but the above shows the decline in availability to the match going fan.

Not bragging or showing off nor being “I’m alright Jack” actually support and applaud the 18-25 scheme and not outraged by the supporters club allocation but when I stand behind 3 non regulars at burnley who say they’ve paid over £1000 each for tickets that’s where questions need to be asked.

similar to yourself i'm on 27,910 and although I do platinum and on all cup schemes and pick up the maximum amount of points on offer suddenly this season i'm able to buy at 2nd window for most games rather than the 1st I have been able to do for years and wondering how can i be moving down the pecking order

 

[ell]

Is there anything stopping you buying a hospitality ticket for big £££ and helping to pay for it by flogging away tickets to tourists at inflated prices?