Major development / we are getting closer (merged) part 2.

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  1. blueinsa

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    They both failed and got the sack!

    Your point is?

    -- Mon May 09, 2011 5:21 pm --

    As it stands i have no idea tbh fella. Wife is in Hospital tomorrow morning for a C-section, twins ;-)

    I have a ticket but it will be a last minute call as to whether i get to make the game dependant on family circumstances.

    If i do though i would have no problem sharing a beer with you and i would promise not to sing any offensive songs ;-)
     
  2. Dyed Petya

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    Best wishes to you and your wife for the birth, mate. Hope you also manage to make the final.
     
  3. blueinsa

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    Cheers mate.

    2 healthy kids, 3 points against Spurs and lifting the cup will certainly make for an amazing week :-)
     
  4. tonea2003

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    takes me back three years, we had the same, 2 boys delivered as benjani scored the second against utd.
    good luck to you and your wife.
    hope you have had plenty of sleep because you ain't going to get much for a while :-) its worth it though
     
  5. Kinkladze1980

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    Anyone know whats happened to "Its Quiet 7 shock and Awe" or what Bombo is trying to tell us yet......or when something is gonna happen of note ????
     
  6. Dyed Petya

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    Well, it's not JUST something we're talking about on here. Mancini to Juve has been rumoured for quite some time in the Italian press. It wouldn't be popular with the Juve fans because Mancini was the coach of the club that benefitted most from their punishment in the Calciopoli affair, but historically there's always been a lot of movement between the big clubs in Italy; the supporters would probably forget their animosity pretty quickly if he were to be successful.

    There have been reports that Mancini met a Juve delegation in London last month. Nothing conclusive in the fact that something was reported in the press, but there was a lot of detail, which tends to add credibility: the date (13 April), the place (some hotel - forget which one, and don't have time to search for the reports now), those present (including Juve director Nedved, sporting director Marotta, and agent Raiola). Moreover, Nedved, who is rumoured to be taking on a more important role in a post-season shake up and who is touted as being a major advocate of Mancini within the current Juve structure, is a former team mate of RM at Lazio so the two men have a long-standing acquaintance.

    Anyway, the 'Mancini to Juve' story still may not be true, and even if it is, it may just be an insurance policy for Roberto. A month ago, it did look like Spurs would push us much harder for fourth place than currently appears the case (I hope I haven't tempted fate by saying that). Mancini would probably have believed that finishing fifth could well get him the sack, so perhaps any flirtation with another club was simply football's equivalent of firing off one or two CVs in the real world if you don't think things are going well at work. Frankly, Mancini's agent wouldn't have been doing his job properly if he weren't putting feelers out for other potential employers for his client at that stage.

    However, it's certainly not inconceivable that he could want to go there anyway. Being closer to his sick father would be a powerful motivation on its own. It's also possible that he may, after 18 months in England. have decided that he either feels more comfortable in Italian football or that Italy simply suits his skills better. And there could be an emotional pull: Juve is, historically, the best supported Italian club and the most successful in domestic competition. Mancini supported them as a kid, too. They move to a new stadium this summer, and it wouldn't be a complete surprise if he was drawn to the challenge of leading the club into its new era. And now that it looks as though we have a fair shot at finishing fourth and winning a pot - well, rather than being a ground for him to stay, that could equally be a factor that would help him to decide to quit, meaning he could leave with his head held high.

    So this isn't simply a piece of nonsense which we're idly speculating about on here. It's something that's been the subject of chatter for a while and that hasn't gone away. Moreover, you can put together a fairly decent argument for why it could actually stack up. Of course, only Mancini knows for sure what he wants and none of the above may apply. I think there's enough of a prospect to make it worth discussing, though.
     
  7. Rammy Blue

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    That's a very insightful post, DP.

    To be honest I wasn't aware that the Juve meeting in London took place, I was under the impression that a meeting was denied in the press?
     
  8. Dyed Petya

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    Not sure - it may have been denied since then, but there were a lot of reports about 2 weeks ago picking up on the initial Italian reorts of the meeting. Any denials don't seem to have been picked up on nearly as much. I was just interested in the level of detail in the original report about the meeting, which would be quite unusual if it had been fabricated.
     
  9. persvenality cult

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    True, but that story ran it's course over a week, nothing since. Meanwhile we're seeing fairly serious action on the transfer front. Honestly, I have developed a fond cynicism for stories printed in the Italian press, having spent many hours last summer decoding revelations, plots and mysteries that make superb reading but are wholly untrustworthy. This goes treble for Juventus, who spend all year talking up one or two huge purchases, but always end up with 6 of the most mediocre journeymen imaginable. The way they strung Dzeko along last year was just painful to watch.

    Even taking into account Lombardo's comments, the volume and momentum behind the story is not comparable to what's happening at Chelsea.

    I also don't believe the justifications offered as to why Roberto would want to leave stack up nearly as well as some people think. Milan (I believe that's where his dad is) is a couple of hours by plane and the journey by road from Turin isnt going to be far off that.

    I don't think we need any of these justifications to discuss it, but I do think it's very easy to kid ourselves about the significance of a little 'logic' and background chat.
     
  10. Bill

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    i have split this and popped the rest in the mod forum, it may make it quicker to load.

    any page can come back if reqd, maybe bring the rest back and lock it, can be for reference only perhaps?
     

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