Mancini (Formally part of the Adebayor thread)

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The arguments about Mancini's ability to manage "personalities" such as Robinho, Ireland, Adebyaor and Bellamy have raged since he became manager. Two trophies down the line you have to say Mancini has prevailed.

The notion that these players have never been a problem elsewhere is fanciful, and I suspect some of those criticising the way Mancini has dealt with it would laud Ferguson's similarly ruthless approach.

It's not so much the fact that Mancini is ruthless that bugs me, he can discard who he wants as far as I'm concerned, and as long as he keeps winning trophies his decisions will be vindicated. However, falling out with players whilst they are still on the payroll and picking up big wages, is not a good policy to follow. At best, buying clubs tend to take the piss because they know we have a disgruntled player on our hands who we're desperate to shift (Adebayor). At worst, we are deprived of the services of players who still have a contribution to make (Tevez). Certainly wouldn't want him replaced though........

 

[mammyjam]

Re: Adebayor

You guys are bang on, this is the part of Mancini that doesnt sit well with me. He treats some players like absolute shit for no apparent reason. I couldn't get over the way he made a mockery of Bellamy no matter how much Bellamy announced his desire to play for the club, apologise and move on. Was it ever made clear what he actually did? Apart from put 100% into everything he did while here? No matter how well Bellamy played, it wasn't good enough for Mancini, which culminated in Mancini preferring to start Jo ahead of him! What a bag of shit Jo was, Bellamy was 10 times the player he was. Im convinced this cost us a fair few points that season. For all the praise Mancini gets, he definitely is not devoid from some serious man management flaws.

They've all had their fair share of problems, Jose classed ballo as 'unmanagable' ask Darren bent about 'arry's people skills and just this week skrtel came out saying kenny was unapproachable
Remember you have no idea what goes on in the dressing room and that is HUGE in terms of team spirit.

There is a fair chance (Esp Bellamy) that they disrupted the dressing room and took focus away from Mancini's message.

Also the fact both got shipped out and we won...... THE PREMIER LEAGUE (still hasnt sunk in)

I'll side with Bobby on this if its ok......

He won the league with the best players. It's not like he won it with Liverpool. I like Bobby so don't misconstrue what I say but he definitely ad issues. Dalgish, Jones, Mourinho and Harry got on well with players who Bob classed as trouble makers. See where I am coming from?

 

[remember arthur mann]

Re: Adebayor

Exactly, buying Dzeko when you have Adebayor doesn't make sense to me.


Ability wise, I rate Ade higher than Dzeko.

Adebayor is better technically, a lot better in fact. He would suit our game with his pace but Mancini just doesn't like him.

This is my thing about Mancini. He has no ability in working wity players he doesn't like. Bellamy, Tevez and Adebayor. He needs to work with people he may not like because its what is best for City. He wouldn't be allowed to turnover players like he has here at say Spurs or Arsenal.

I like Bobby (even namedmy dogj after him) but I do question his people skills.

What breed is your dog?

 

[Akira]

I believe Mancini's approach is right, stamping his authority in the squad players. If he compromised and gave leeway to players like Adebayor and Bellamy, he would eventually lose to player power, like how Chelsea is now. When the players decide they are done with him, they will gather together to drive him out.

 

[Soulboy]

I believe Mancini's approach is right, stamping his authority in the squad players. If he compromised and gave leeway to players like Adebayor and Bellamy, he would eventually lose to player power, like how Chelsea is now. When the players decide they are done with him, they will gather together to drive him out.

Yeah, we wouldn't want to end up like Chelsea last season...

;-))

 

[Deleted member 14625]

Ferguson - possibly cast as the best man manager in football - fucked off Sharp, Stam, Keane, Beckham, van Nistelroy etc. when they were all in their prime or still massively important to the way United could play and win. Why did Mourinho publically state that nobody at Internazionale liked Mario and he's a waste of squad space?

Sometimes when someone is upsetting the balance of the changing room you have to just get rid, no matter how good they are.

 

[oakiecokie]

Ferguson - possibly cast as the best man manager in football - fucked off Sharp, Stam, Keane, Beckham, van Nistelroy etc. when they were all in their prime or still massively important to the way United could play and win. Why did Mourinho publically state that nobody at Internazionale liked Mario and he's a waste of squad space?

Sometimes when someone is upsetting the balance of the changing room you have to just get rid, no matter how good they are.

Sanity is creeping in.Well said Dan.
+1

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

Lol.

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

Re: Adebayor

He won the league with the best players. It's not like he won it with Liverpool. I like Bobby so don't misconstrue what I say but he definitely ad issues. Dalgish, Jones, Mourinho and Harry got on well with players who Bob classed as trouble makers. See where I am coming from?

Clueless

Care to be more expansive?

Bellamys service was appreciated at Cardiff and Liverpool.
Adebayor at Real and Spurs.

Let's not let facts get in the way of opinion aye?

Here's some facts beyond reasonable doubt:

Dalglish or bob?

jones(laughable) or bob?

twitch or bob?

You see the pattern skippy? Mourinho is his only equal but like a fine Italian wine will get better with age. The major difference in there careers is Bob has built his teams, apart from Porto Mourinho has inherited, 2/3 additions to already impressive squads, you do understand the management style of jose right? applied science??????? This is the reason he stays as long as he does at said clubs.

You're also finding that unlike the mourinho reign where 2 teams were competing against each other, we find 4/5 other teams who have raised the level of competition, Bobs achievement last year was a greater achievement than any of mourinho's title wins........... FACT

 

[TGR]

Re: Adebayor

Adebayor is better technically, a lot better in fact. He would suit our game with his pace but Mancini just doesn't like him.

You guys are bang on, this is the part of Mancini that doesnt sit well with me. He treats some players like absolute shit for no apparent reason. I couldn't get over the way he made a mockery of Bellamy no matter how much Bellamy announced his desire to play for the club, apologise and move on. Was it ever made clear what he actually did? Apart from put 100% into everything he did while here? No matter how well Bellamy played, it wasn't good enough for Mancini, which culminated in Mancini preferring to start Jo ahead of him! What a bag of shit Jo was, Bellamy was 10 times the player he was. Im convinced this cost us a fair few points that season. For all the praise Mancini gets, he definitely is not devoid from having some serious man management flaws.

Didn't see this as I posted whilst you did this. Totally agree.

Bellamy leaving left us empty of a winger too. Remember Bellamy in the CC? He bit his nose to spite his face imo.

Bellamy is an odious specimen of a human being. I would not have him any where near the dressing room or our club. I'm glad the trouble causing, self centred, egotistical gob shite was drummed out. Mancini has won us the FA Cup and the title in the last 2 years FFS! Adeybayor is another lazy bastard who only plays until he has got a contract. Mancini is still trying to clean up the pile of shite left behind by Hughes who was responsible for bringing in all the over priced, over paid, egotistical, selfish players into our club. Support him 24/7.