Mancini Press Conference

[Rammy Blue]

Good thread, no need for the crappy comments.

Personally, I think that Bob is rather naive if he thinks we can just dust off the cheque book and sign players that he wants, it just isn't that simple.

He needs a little patience, already got 4 in and 2 or 3 more to come.

Our side was the most in-form side in the Prem at the end of last season and there are, imo, no excuses for a slow start as he hasn't lost anyone.

 

[Mancio]

Good thread, no need for the crappy comments.

Personally, I think that Bob is rather naive if he thinks we can just dust off the cheque book and sign players that he wants, it just isn't that simple.

He needs a little patience, already got 4 in and 2 or 3 more to come.

Our side was the most in-form side in the Prem at the end of last season and there are, imo, no excuses for a slow start as he hasn't lost anyone.

i think is not mancini the one who is naive.

more easy to see naivety in who believe mancini dont know the difficulties or ask for targets not concordated or publicly criticising the "buying team" work without very good reasons that we may well never know but he surely do

 

[Sky Blue]

I can see the nasri deal going tits up. It's taking too long.

We haven't signed what we need to challenge for the title and Cook seems to be constantly trying to fck things up.

The only good news is that it looks like Tevez ain't going

I`ve just complemented someone on writing the best post on this thread.
Unfortunately this one of yours is without doubt the fooking worst by a long shot !!

Millwall vet's ok....he just likes to doom every now and again. Speaking of doom, not seen 'simon23' on here for a while.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Good thread, no need for the crappy comments.

Personally, I think that Bob is rather naive if he thinks we can just dust off the cheque book and sign players that he wants, it just isn't that simple.

He needs a little patience, already got 4 in and 2 or 3 more to come.

Our side was the most in-form side in the Prem at the end of last season and there are, imo, no excuses for a slow start as he hasn't lost anyone.

i think is not mancini the one who is naive.

more easy to see naivety in who believe mancini dont know the difficulties or ask for targets not concordated or publicly criticising the "buying team" work without very good reasons that we may well never know but he surely do

But we have to show that we are attempting to comply with FFPR; I think we all know that these stupid rules will fall apart soon enough but for now we have to pretend they are being given due respect.

Selling clubs know we have unlimited cash so it is rare that our transfers are done quickly, it's just one of those crosses we have to bear when we are the richest club in the world...

;-)

 

[oakiecokie]

I can see the nasri deal going tits up. It's taking too long.

We haven't signed what we need to challenge for the title and Cook seems to be constantly trying to fck things up.

The only good news is that it looks like Tevez ain't going

I`ve just complemented someone on writing the best post on this thread.
Unfortunately this one of yours is without doubt the fooking worst by a long shot !!

Millwall vet's ok....he just likes to doom every now and again. Speaking of doom, not seen 'simon23' on here for a while.

Yeh,whatever happened to him ?? Must have come back as someone else I would have thought > lol

 

[hgblue]

Good thread, no need for the crappy comments.

Personally, I think that Bob is rather naive if he thinks we can just dust off the cheque book and sign players that he wants, it just isn't that simple.

He needs a little patience, already got 4 in and 2 or 3 more to come.

Our side was the most in-form side in the Prem at the end of last season and there are, imo, no excuses for a slow start as he hasn't lost anyone.

He isn't that naive which leads me to think there's a bit of internal politics going on here. Even if there isn't, I'd like to think that Mancini has enough quality at his disposal to ensure he picks up enough points from his first few games to have us right up there in the mix by the time Nasri and the others arrive. If he doesn't, he's got bigger problems than Cook and Marwood to worry about......

 

[persvenality cult]

Well if Mancini hates it so much he can threaten to quit and go to Juve again...because as has been made abundantly clear...he doesn't have the 100% control he wants.

What you've posted above is wild speculation as you have no way of knowing how the Sanchez deal unfolded, nor do you have any way of knowing which player is who's target. You've done your best in this thread to paint Cook and Marwood as incompetent whilst holding Mancini up as a hard done by manager struggling to get the players he requires. I just don't see the situation like that at all.

Of course it's wild speculation. I don't think Cook and Marwood are incompetent, but there are things about the situation that bother me.

The club appears to be run by committee. We're intransigent, inflexible, slow to react, still overpaying and too keen on established names.
If the blame for all that lies with Khaldoon then so be it, the guy scrubs up well and gives a fantastic interview, but he's in charge of the whole shebang, and mistakes have been made. My gut feeling however is things a little further down the chain might not be ideal. Cook is clever, and has done well to modernise the image of the club, but the suspicion, that his vision of the club interferes with the optimal management at squad and team level, has never gone away.

I couldn't give a damn about Mancini, really. Sink or swim time for him. But what bothers me is that, if we fail, then the tendency is to blame it all upon that one guy. If that happens, I'll be distraught, not for the thought of poor Mancini the multimillionaire serial medal collector bit of a bastard handsome devil... but because the larger problems will remain. I can see the track record of others is pretty lacklustre, I can see why Mancini would draw attention to this.

The comfort zone comment bugs me as well.

I was proud of that, because as I made it, I realised it was absolutely true in the case of Nasri (who, for what it's worth, has never convinced me in the centre of the park).

 

[taconinja]

Well if Mancini hates it so much he can threaten to quit and go to Juve again...because as has been made abundantly clear...he doesn't have the 100% control he wants.

What you've posted above is wild speculation as you have no way of knowing how the Sanchez deal unfolded, nor do you have any way of knowing which player is who's target. You've done your best in this thread to paint Cook and Marwood as incompetent whilst holding Mancini up as a hard done by manager struggling to get the players he requires. I just don't see the situation like that at all.

Of course it's wild speculation. I don't think Cook and Marwood are incompetent, but there are things about the situation that bother me.

The club appears to be run by committee. We're intransigent, inflexible, slow to react, still overpaying and too keen on established names.
If the blame for all that lies with Khaldoon then so be it, the guy scrubs up well and gives a fantastic interview, but he's in charge of the whole shebang, and mistakes have been made. My gut feeling however is things a little further down the chain might not be ideal. Cook is clever, and has done well to modernise the image of the club, but the suspicion, that his vision of the club interferes with the optimal management at squad and team level, has never gone away.

I couldn't give a damn about Mancini, really. Sink or swim time for him. But what bothers me is that, if we fail, then the tendency is to blame it all upon that one guy. If that happens, I'll be distraught, not for the thought of poor Mancini the multimillionaire serial medal collector bit of a bastard handsome devil... but because the larger problems will remain. I can see the track record of others is pretty lacklustre, I can see why Mancini would draw attention to this.

That's Chelsea's issue. They keep chucking managers out yet never address the real issues.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Start of the fucking season and everyone is moaning,whinging etc etc.

Lets go back to the days of "Well they put in a good shift" Pearce hey...Get a grip will you. Yes have an opinion but I bet half who moan on here are the fuckers who moan when a pass goes astray etc etc...Support the frigging club will you. So the manager looks brassed off. Too many shrinks on here!!

Weren't you one of those calling for Mancini's head at one point last season?

I seem to remember that your views on Mancini changed with each result!

Soulboy-If you can find me any of those posts you are a better man than me since I have only been a member since the close season. I will await your apology!

Correction-since the 4th of May!

Edited for accuracy for the attention of Soulboy....

 

[Thenumber1blue]

Lets just give him what he wants and cut out the philosophy bullshit.The guys a fucking legend .

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Not a ball kicked in anger and the vultures have come out already! A Bluemoon Record

Well said that man! the same vultures in May were singing the club,managers praises. Short fucking memories I am afraid. Win one week and it's - Mancini is the d.b's Lose the next and it's - Mancini out,he's to negative etc... Cannot be fucking arsed with supporters who do not understand that stability is what's required. How does anyone on here know what is going on with transfers/targets etc?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

All this nonsense about not getting transfer targets. Like some spoiled, rich, fat kids stamping their feet because Mummy & Daddy won't buy them a better version of something they bought them last week.

For one thing, who knows what our targets were. Players we wanted might not have been for sale, might not have wanted to come to us or, if they did, we couldn't agree terms.

I also happen to know a leading club's chief exec and an agent so I know how complex some negotiations are. Agents & players play clubs off against each other for one thing. Dealing with agents is also tricky. It's a murky world and negotiations can seem to be straightforward then mysterious parties appear out of the woodwork demanding a cut and City will not play that game.

Clubs will also play hardball, refusing to deal until they've got their own targets lined up and have to go through the same loops.

It's not like going into Selfridges, picking a shirt you like then paying at the till. City have a way of doing business, which the owners have laid down. If Mancini or any of you don't like it then too bad.

 

[Braggster]

All this nonsense about not getting transfer targets. Like some spoiled, rich, fat kids stamping their feet because Mummy & Daddy won't buy them a better version of something they bought them last week.

For one thing, who knows what our targets were. Players we wanted might not have been for sale, might not have wanted to come to us or, if they did, we couldn't agree terms.

I also happen to know a leading club's chief exec and an agent so I know how complex some negotiations are. Agents & players play clubs off against each other for one thing. Dealing with agents is also tricky. It's a murky world and negotiations can seem to be straightforward then mysterious parties appear out of the woodwork demanding a cut and City will not play that game.

Clubs will also play hardball, refusing to deal until they've got their own targets lined up and have to go through the same loops.

It's not like going into Selfridges, picking a shirt you like then paying at the till. City have a way of doing business, which the owners have laid down. If Mancini or any of you don't like it then too bad.

By no means do I have a lot of sympathy for Mancini on this, but I think that post is a little naive. We're talking about a man who's spent 90% of his career in Italy, and managed Inter. I think he knows that these deals aren't straightforward. That does not mean that the club's executives have performed adequately or sensibly,or supported him adequately, though.

Indeed, many of the current problems in the squad spring from Cook and Marwood's pathetic inability to negotiate sensible salaries. The reports of Nasri's reported salary suggest that they still can't negotiate a sensible contract. Pathetic. Marwood in particular is someone I am deeply suspicious of.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

All this nonsense about not getting transfer targets. Like some spoiled, rich, fat kids stamping their feet because Mummy & Daddy won't buy them a better version of something they bought them last week.

For one thing, who knows what our targets were. Players we wanted might not have been for sale, might not have wanted to come to us or, if they did, we couldn't agree terms.

I also happen to know a leading club's chief exec and an agent so I know how complex some negotiations are. Agents & players play clubs off against each other for one thing. Dealing with agents is also tricky. It's a murky world and negotiations can seem to be straightforward then mysterious parties appear out of the woodwork demanding a cut and City will not play that game.

Clubs will also play hardball, refusing to deal until they've got their own targets lined up and have to go through the same loops.

It's not like going into Selfridges, picking a shirt you like then paying at the till. City have a way of doing business, which the owners have laid down. If Mancini or any of you don't like it then too bad.

By no means do I have a lot of sympathy for Mancini on this, but I think that post is a little naive. We're talking about a man who's spent 90% of his career in Italy, and managed Inter. I think he knows that these deals aren't straightforward. That does not mean that the club's executives have performed adequately or sensibly,or supported him adequately, though.

Indeed, many of the current problems in the squad spring from Cook and Marwood's pathetic inability to negotiate sensible salaries. The reports of Nasri's reported salary suggest that they still can't negotiate a sensible contract. Pathetic. Marwood in particular is someone I am deeply suspicious of.

Why? What has Marwood done now? Or not so in your eyes. Nobody knows what goes on during negotiations etc etc so blaming Marwood/Cooke is just stupid. If they were that bad don't you think Khaldoon would have fucked them both off by now?

 

[oakiecokie]

All this nonsense about not getting transfer targets. Like some spoiled, rich, fat kids stamping their feet because Mummy & Daddy won't buy them a better version of something they bought them last week.

For one thing, who knows what our targets were. Players we wanted might not have been for sale, might not have wanted to come to us or, if they did, we couldn't agree terms.

I also happen to know a leading club's chief exec and an agent so I know how complex some negotiations are. Agents & players play clubs off against each other for one thing. Dealing with agents is also tricky. It's a murky world and negotiations can seem to be straightforward then mysterious parties appear out of the woodwork demanding a cut and City will not play that game.

Clubs will also play hardball, refusing to deal until they've got their own targets lined up and have to go through the same loops.

It's not like going into Selfridges, picking a shirt you like then paying at the till. City have a way of doing business, which the owners have laid down. If Mancini or any of you don't like it then too bad.

Think one of the issues with those who condemn both Cook and Marwood,have forgotten,or wanted to forget Khaldoons superb video on the OS,where hes speaks openly about the transer policy and we would do less this time around.
As for the others,well I suppose they`ve never seen the video,otherwise they might have a change of heart.
Khaldoon pulls the strings for our beloved HH.
And thats how it should be !

 

[shawgorbie]

come on we are supposed to be the fan's who stick by our team through think and thin.So much negativity even before we've even played a match,it's embarrassing.

 

[mannycity]

first off I am a Mancini fan,and yes he wants more control,success helps re,fergiescum.So what are the problems,egos are getting dented all around,apparently Mancini can fall out daily with cook and marwood.There is a lot of friction behind the scenes,and it's pissing Mancini off he feels not enough effort has been made,to bring in the players he identified,to take the team to the next level.All these targets were identified at the meeting in Abu dhabi at the end of the season.Some people were hoping he might of got the bullet at the meeting,however common ground was found and all sides were clear of the teams targets this coming season.I really fear the unrest may be unsettling,in and around the club/team.Mancini is a control freak,a bad loser like you wouldn't believe,he knows what and who he needs to progress,he isn't patient,and is a disciplinarian,exactly out of the same mould as slur Alex.I honestly think that there are to many people involved in the decision making process,to many people,and opinions,it's hampering our efforts to maintain progress.There will be a tipping point,and only one winner and it won't be Mancini.COME ON GET IT SORTED.

 

[Neil McNab]

Not a happy man imo.

Constantly repeating the message that the season is about to start and the club haven't signed their targets.

When Supporters can't receive their Seasoncards in good time then I shudder to think how the Club organises the pursuit of Lionel Messi. Can Mancini only bring success with money?

Not sure he'll do it either way, if he aint happy he can jog on, I'm sure there's plenty who would feel they can do better with this bunch of players anyway, city is like a Ferrari being driven by an old granny at the moment!

 

[The Future's Blue]

Do people just post aimlessly, hoping to tar a person one way or the other?

The club work in a manner that suits all needs, and that's ours. I can't see many complaints so far so why all the hulabaloo?

FA Cup, Champions League (real) and tipped to be 2nd in the league (we can do better).

What's the fucking problem?

Edit: If this is all over his press conference then how do you know what he was thinking? He may have been in a mood because he didn't get any this morning, who knows.

 

[Three_Hat-tricks]

Christ, we're in such a terrible state, aren't we? After just avoiding relegation last year, I can see us really struggling again this year.