Mancini write-up by Didsbury Dave

[George Hannah]

But to go back to DD's article, it's a typical scenario on Bluemoon. Someone comes out with a well-written piece or post and rather than reply in the same vein, as intelligent adults, the nay-sayers belittle and insult the OP in a stream of uncritical, negative drivel.

Well-written eh?

It’s an old English saying, “Never sh** on your own doorstep”, but it is one that Roberto Mancini might have been wise to digest. As manager of Manchester City he deposited so many turds in so many places that when he slipped he was always going to find it hard to get to his feet again.

It's something the Cabal coprophiliacs have signally failed to digest as well it seems, in fact you're all so brimming with anti-Mancini sh*t you just can't help spewing it indiscriminately over everything you come into contact with.

 

[Rolee]

Was it a blunder? I'm finding it hard to believe Txiki would be that naive.

 

[wythenshaweblue£££]

This Puts a slant on things and makes u see it from both sides thanks dave. What's the spat he had with limp any meant to be about does anyone know?.

 

[lancs blue]

The player forced to Russia as an un-used substitute, that's Boateng at the Kiev game right? No wonder he left the club after only one year.

What else should he have done, the only other defender on the bench was Boyata, if Komps or Lescott had got injured he would have brought Boateng on and this arguement would be invalid, as they didn't it's being used as another rock to throw at Mancini.

Ffs he's gone get over it, it's what the 'inners' are being told to do.

This is what pisses me off about DD's article. I could have accepted an even-handed critique of Mancini's reign but instead we just got more one-sided character assassination. He mentions the Boateng incident to cast Mancini in a bad light but fails to mention that we were short-handed at the time. Also there's no mention that Mancini gave Zabaleta indefinite leave of absence to be with his critically ill father in Argentina, but that wouldn't have fit the agenda.

 

[taconinja]

Was it a blunder? I'm finding it hard to believe Txiki would be that naive.

Are you referring to the meeting with Pellegrini's agent? From all accounts by purported ITKs, Barcelona people were the ones to leak that to the press. I highly doubt that our representative was counting on Barcelona deciding to leak the information in Spain.

 

[Anonymous]

On that I agree. Completely. There's far too much of that nonsense. Unfortunately two summers in a row now the "winning" side... although when the forum degenerates to this point it's hard to believe there is a winner... shows a decidedly childish bent. Not all of the side that was proved right, mind you. Enough though where it seems like it's in unison. Personally, I can't wait for June. Transfer season will put a lot of people quiet on this subject although sadly they'll just do move to another topic and we're likely to see Tolmie et al. being attacked and defended with the same ferocity.

Cool, I'm glad you see where I'm coming from. One thing I will add though, and maybe it's just me seeing things my own way to suit the narrative i'm creating, but generally the degeneration of any argument is when it moves from the subject to the poster. In that context, the Mancini argument was finished three years ago when Dave became Dismal, collectively we became known as the cabal, and our perceived lack of support for the club became the easiest stick to beat us with rather than just accepting "they don't rate the manager". I know, I know, we we won the FA Cup and the league and Mancini got a 5 year contract and we were all made to look so damn stupid for ever not rating him. Except the limitations in the man never changed and ultimately they cost him his job as City went from breathtaking to stagnating in 18 month. It's been an interesting ride.

 

[mostonbluemark]

I suspect that he's not the only one who feels like spending the rest of the summer screaming "i told you so". Maybe it's not the most mature way of handling the situation, but then if you'd spent the last six months being called everything from a **** to a rag to a prick for thinking Mancini was the wrong guy for the club, only to find Mansour and the the powers that be agreed with you, then you may well have a different view point when it comes to recriminations and perceived gloating.

Anyway Kowalski's spent the last six months playing to the cheap seats. That hasn't really changed in the last few days IMO and on that basis I've got fuck all time for him.

Dave made his own bed, Billy. He dished it out from the start and he cast far and wide with his nasty barbs and name-calling and sneering condescension.

Dave is a product of his environment just like you and I. My memory is long enough to remember the beginning of this argument, and how from very early on it became clear that any criticism of Mancini, no matter how justified, was always going to be met with sneering condescension, name calling, and nasty barbs.

I like you Taco, and I know you and Dave have your problems with each other - but the mind bogglingly hypocritical way in which people swan around this forum going "you fucking rag **** get behind the manager" only to cry about the abuse they suffer when they get it back in spades off someone like Dave is both funny and depressing at the same time. I'm not talking about you specifically btw, that's a general comment about some of the people who are now wanting the whole saga to be brushed under the carpet as if the last six months wasn't open warfare on a small group of posters who didn't fancy the manager.

The thing is Billy. You and Dave clearly had background information as to what was happening inside the Club. The vast majority of supporters, and I include myself in this, clearly didn't. I can't recall any points either yourself or Dave made that elaborated on these issues. If you did then obviously i'll retract what I have just said. That's the reason why so many of us stood on the Mancini side of the camp. All we had to go on was the fact that the guy had delivered us trophies and therefore warranted another season. As I said in one of my posts a couple of months ago my support of Mancini wasn't unconditional and now the background issues are coming to the fore it does seem a change of manager is in the best interests of the club. As I've said previously you are a poster I find informative, even though I was a firm Mancini inner, I look forward to reading some of your more informative posts in the future. Just try to be a little less ambiguous in the future with the facts you may be aware of and perhaps all the forum can have a more worthwhile debate. I doubt my last point very much. But I will give you more rope in the future. Mark

 

[GaudinoMotors]

This Puts a slant on things and makes u see it from both sides thanks dave. What's the spat he had with limp any meant to be about does anyone know?.

Both sides??? Like reading Mein Kampf and thinking how peaceful the world would be if we followed that logic.

 

[taconinja]

On that I agree. Completely. There's far too much of that nonsense. Unfortunately two summers in a row now the "winning" side... although when the forum degenerates to this point it's hard to believe there is a winner... shows a decidedly childish bent. Not all of the side that was proved right, mind you. Enough though where it seems like it's in unison. Personally, I can't wait for June. Transfer season will put a lot of people quiet on this subject although sadly they'll just do move to another topic and we're likely to see Tolmie et al. being attacked and defended with the same ferocity.

Cool, I'm glad you see where I'm coming from. One thing I will add though, and maybe it's just me seeing things my own way to suit the narrative i'm creating, but generally the degeneration of any argument is when it moves from the subject to the poster. In that context, the Mancini argument was finished three years ago when Dave became Dismal, collectively we became known as the cabal, and our perceived lack of support for the club became the easiest stick to beat us with rather than just accepting "they don't rate the manager". I know, I know, we we won the FA Cup and the league and Mancini got a 5 year contract and we were all made to look so damn stupid for ever not rating him. Except the limitations in the man never changed and ultimately they cost him his job as City went from breathtaking to stagnating in 18 month. It's been an interesting ride.

I'll admit the term "cabal" has always made me roll my eyes. Sometimes people disagree. Also there are people who will never like each other. Both circumstances are what they are. There's no reason to lump everyone into one or two (or more I suppose) sides. Take each argument on its own and each person should own their own argument.

 

[BobKowalski]

One thing I will add though, and maybe it's just me seeing things my own way to suit the narrative i'm creating, but generally the degeneration of any argument is when it moves from the subject to the poster.

Anyway Kowalski's spent the last six months playing to the cheap seats. That hasn't really changed in the last few days IMO and on that basis I've got fuck all time for him.

oh the irony...