Marc-Andre ter Stegen

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Hungarian blue said:
He's shockingly good at the ball at his feet and of course can make as spectacular saves as Hart, though with him I always felt he is just not as clever when reading the play as, let's say, Neuer, whilst he probably already uses his feet as well as him.
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See I think Neuer is a great shot stopper and a massive presence, but I also think he causes tonnes of problems with his supposed 'reading of the game'. He makes some rash decisions and puts his side in danger when there really is no need. Just recently against Juve he could have easily have been at fault for two goals (one was disallowed). The sweeper keepers has almost become as fashionable as the defensive midfielder. I understand the need for it but imo he gets involved in situations where his services aren't needed. Problem is, whenever he leaves his area to take the ball, everyone raves about how world class he is.

It's a weird one, he is probably the best in the world, but I still think his 'sweeping' is too risky and unnecessary at times.
 
Is it just me who doesn't find anything special about ter stegen? Most of his passes are to his centre halves , let's face it none of Mangala and Demichellis are Pique like
 
Allegedly, of the 98 goalkeepers in Europe's top five leagues, only one makes fewer passes per game than Joe Hart.

If Guardiola wants to build his team, I back him. And I love Joe Hart, the only one who is arsed enough to regularly acknowledge the South Stand. But Pep is here to make us the best, and in his image.
 
It would immediately sour Pep's arrival if one of the first things he does is get rid of Hart. I know a few people on here love nothing more than to slag him off but he is a very popular player and has been at the club a long time. And frankly I think he is a far better keeper than Ter Stegen. Just look at his performances in Europe. Be a big mistake in my opinion.
 
LoveCity said:
Allegedly, of the 98 goalkeepers in Europe's top five leagues, only one makes fewer passes per game than Joe Hart.

If Guardiola wants to build his team, I back him. And I love Joe Hart, the only one who is arsed enough to regularly acknowledge the South Stand. But Pep is here to make us the best, and in his image.
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I agree.Pep has an enormous rebuilding job on his hands,and,if he believes that is best served by doing so from the very back,then so be it.
We are hiring this man because he is allegedly the very best,so,while some decisions will prove unpopular,we have to let him prove it.
 
LoveCity said:
Allegedly, of the 98 goalkeepers in Europe's top five leagues, only one makes fewer passes per game than Joe Hart.

If Guardiola wants to build his team, I back him. And I love Joe Hart, the only one who is arsed enough to regularly acknowledge the South Stand. But Pep is here to make us the best, and in his image.
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After watching 'City Slickers', I can't think of anyone that would be happy to see Hart relegated to the bench and then, presumably, shipped out. It's tough to see such a key and loyal member of our side face being axed. I would give Pep the benefit of the doubt but if we don't hit the ground running, fingers will be pointed immediately especially if he sells/casts out some of our key players.
 
Hart's one of the few who actually puts 100% in week in, week out and has been consistent this season especially.

I haven't seen much of Ter Stegen but have always been aware of his potential over the years. I suppose we'll need a new second keeper and Pep must rate him.
 
A question to those opposed to this. If Caballero leaves and we're not ready to promote any youngsters, what kind of goalkeeper do you think we should look at?
 
J_Bow said:
Hart's one of the few who actually puts 100% in week in, week out and has been consistent this season especially.

I haven't seen much of Ter Stegen but have always been aware of his potential over the years. I suppose we'll need a new second keeper and Pep must rate him.
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He's not coming here as a second choice keeper. He wants to leave the best team in the world because he only gets to play cup games. If he comes, Hart will be relegated to the bench.
 
itisrising said:
He's not coming here as a second choice keeper. He wants to leave the best team in the world because he only gets to play cup games. If he comes, Hart will be relegated to the bench.
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Only if he doesn't impress enough to keep his place. Which I imagine is the same for every position on the pitch.
 
Pablo1 said:
Only if he doesn't impress enough to keep his place. Which I imagine is the same for every position on the pitch.
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Well I think Ter-Stegen has been promised first team football and will be Pep's automatic number one. He won't leave Barca and turn down Liverpool if he's not atleast given the promise from Pep.
 
ono said:
See I think Neuer is a great shot stopper and a massive presence, but I also think he causes tonnes of problems with his supposed 'reading of the game'. He makes some rash decisions and puts his side in danger when there really is no need. Just recently against Juve he could have easily have been at fault for two goals (one was disallowed). The sweeper keepers has almost become as fashionable as the defensive midfielder. I understand the need for it but imo he gets involved in situations where his services aren't needed. Problem is, whenever he leaves his area to take the ball, everyone raves about how world class he is.

It's a weird one, he is probably the best in the world, but I still think his 'sweeping' is too risky and unnecessary at times.
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He's seems to take a long time to set himself for one on ones and gets beaten by strikers who take an early shot before he can sort his feet out.

Most have him down as the best in the world and even he has weaknesses. This is why I'm worried we'd be replacing Joe with a different keeper rather than an overall better one. Although, as Domalino pointed out, Pep and his team know what they're doing.
 
itisrising said:
Well I think Ter-Stegen has been promised first team football and will be Pep's automatic number one. He won't leave Barca and turn down Liverpool if he's not atleast given the promise from Pep.
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He might just have enough self belief that he thinks he can win a place fair and square? Whatever the outcome, I'd rather this than a second rate journeyman. What will be will be.
 
Not really sure about this. Yes we need a much better backup keeper than we currently have... but to replace Joe? And even worse, spend 20m+ on it? Why??

I don't see our Goalkeeper as a priority, Joe Hart is a fantastic keeper, imho.
 
ColinLee said:
It's pure media bollocks as far as I'm concerned, why anyone thinks it's got legs is beyond me.
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Because everyone who isn't just upset at the idea of a player we all love leaving can see that right now Joe Hart is incompatible with the way Pep Guardiola wants to play?

It's a requirement that the goalkeeper is comfortable knocking the ball around the back four under pressure, and Joe isn't.

So either Joe adapts or Pep will replace him. I hope he adapts, but it makes sense that Guardiola would get another goalkeeper who can do what he wants in case Hart can't.
 
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