Mario, time to say goodbye?

No doubt that his rep is a problem but I would stick with him for now: his talent is worth some patience on the club's part. Would not be surprised if he wanted to quit England by the season's end.

We do need another striker though.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
grunge said:
lee-mcfc said:
For a guy who is "well-respected" on bluemoon what an embarrassing thread...

i am 100% behind Mario

There seems to be a lot of people missing the point ( unless I am? )

To me the question being posed is could Mario progress further and quick than he can here due to the fact he gets hounded on and off the pitch in the UK?

Its nowt to do with backing him or not.


Thank fuck for this^^^^^^^^^


The in short the answer is no.

He looks up to RM more than any coach anywhere. He is playing in teh most competative league in the world as well.....so the answer is no

The posing of the question itself suggests a lack of backing ......
 
gaudinho's stolen car said:
Didsbury Dave said:
lee-mcfc said:
Yes because having so many posts determines if you understand a thread or not...

you attention seeker

Leave it out mate - you clearly haven't understood the thread. He asks a valid question - is Mario's reputation making his position at the club untenable?

It's been answered and the answer is no. Or is that answer incorrect?
For me yes it is incorrect!
 
Didsbury Dave said:
lee-mcfc said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I wouldn't expect either you to have understood the actual thread.

Between you, over 25,000 posts.

Do the irony!
Yes because having so many posts determines if you understand a thread or not...

you attention seeker

Leave it out mate - you clearly haven't understood the thread. He asks a valid question - is Mario's reputation making his position at the club untenable?
I have understood the question and i have disagreed and so have a lot of other posters in this thread,isn't that what a forum is all about?
but because its "tolmie's hairdoo" he's obviously always correct i suppose...
 
Damocles said:
Completely disagree.

Firstly, this country loves an eccentric. Secondly, the reason he moved to England in the first place was because the Italian fans literally tried to kill him because he was black. His development stopped in Italy and the racism brought out his nasty side. This stamping and fouling isn't something he has always done, it stems directly from Juve fans.

Thirdly, that Cantona guy who had similar disciplinary problems seemed to do ok here.

I don't think you have thought your argument through.

Thats not the issue - if he is being reffed differently to other players ie never given the benefit of the doubt and continues to give ref ammo to shoot him with then quite simply he becomes ineffective

First he must change his ways and stop giving silly yellows and blowing up - if he does not change this aspect of his game then the refs will not change - regardless of his ability a top top player becomes an average player when he misses 6, 7 or more games a year for suspensions plus any injuries he may pick up - if things dont change then sadly he has no future here in the prem for us.
 
Dave S said:
gaudinho's stolen car said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Leave it out mate - you clearly haven't understood the thread. He asks a valid question - is Mario's reputation making his position at the club untenable?

It's been answered and the answer is no. Or is that answer incorrect?
For me yes it is incorrect!

Ah right, maybe the OP should have included the caveat that the opinion wasn't open to debate. Predictable college debating society bollocks.
 
BillyShears said:
Nobody has mentioned this - but he spat in the direction of the ref during the Liverpool cup match the other week. It was disgusting, unnecessary, and on another day he could've been done for that too.
Spitting on a footbal pitch! Whatever next.

How can you be sent off for that, it was no near the ref.
 
I can understand where TH is coming from, but no. He stays. I said before he arrived we can't afford to not have him. Three points on Sunday proved that. Fuck the FA, Arry, Parker etc
 
rooney - sleeps with prostitutes - last time i looked a criminal offence
- cheats on his wife with said hookers - morally indefensible
- time and time again gets away with violent conduct - yet the FA back him and refs do nothing
- constantly swears at ref's and linesman thoughtout the game - no punishment

Redknapp - on charges of tax evation!


cantona - assaults a fan (a criminal offence) does his time and now is seen as an all time hero to utd fans and the media

de canio - nazi salutes
- pushes a referee over in the prem

and these are just he ones off the top of my head......yet all of them fondly looked upon by those bastians of morality our british press (yes the same press who are known for tapping phones and getting info out of small children in relation to the milley (dowler?) case........

and people are listening to these sorts of people??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Unfucking believeable!!!!!!!!!
 
OB1 said:
No doubt that his rep is a problem but I would stick with him for now: his talent is worth some patience on the club's part. Would not be surprised if he wanted to quit England by the season's end.

We do need another striker though.

He won't go back to Italy this summer. No one could afford him there, plus he left there because of the racist abuse he suffered. The better he gets, the more of that kind of abuse he'll get out there. I've no doubt he'll be staying here, although it does depend on Roberto. He's given the lad quite a few chances since he pitched up in Manchester and he keeps letting the manager down. Mancini, as patient as he is with Mario, will have results as a priority over getting the best out of any individual player.

Totally agree, we need another forward. Very surprised that so many people seem to think Mario's being victimised. After the inevitability of the FA charge sunk in, and I pondered on everything that he's has done since he got here, I came to the unfortunate conclusion that he's brought most of this upon himself. I'm sure the manager will be saying the same thing.
 
gaudinho's stolen car said:
Dave S said:
gaudinho's stolen car said:
It's been answered and the answer is no. Or is that answer incorrect?
For me yes it is incorrect!

Ah right, maybe the OP should have included the caveat that the opinion wasn't open to debate. Predictable college debating society bollocks.
Just like you and everyone else I'm simply putting across my point of view.
 
lee-mcfc said:
Didsbury Dave said:
lee-mcfc said:
Yes because having so many posts determines if you understand a thread or not...

you attention seeker

Leave it out mate - you clearly haven't understood the thread. He asks a valid question - is Mario's reputation making his position at the club untenable?
I have understood the question and i have disagreed and so have a lot of other posters in this thread,isn't that what a forum is all about?
but because its "tolmie's hairdoo" he's obviously always correct i suppose...

A forum is about discussion and opinions. But when people get personal about the poster, rather than join the debate, then things deteriorate.

Why did you have to start insulting Tolmie when he asks a question that any person with City's interests at heart should be asking?
 
The potential we could possibly get from Mario is second to none. We have to stick with the lad and give him support, he is still young and he will out grow all his antics once he reaches his peak in my opinion.

I can't believe City fans would let him go with the amount of love we have for him.
 
Under no circumstances should we let Mario go. I understand the point Tolmie is making but its ridiculous to contemplate selling him because there is a witch hunt on the lad. He may have his problems but he won us 3 very valuable points on Sunday, did the same against Everton. He can change a game in a heartbeat. We need Mario and he needs us to be there to protect him.
 
Haven't read the whole thread, in fact I've only read the first and last pages but my two penneth;

1- His age. Whatever anyone says he can and will learn to deal with things. Imo, despite Sunday, this season has already been a huge improvement. He was sent off wrongly against Liverpool and may be suspended wrongly here too. I understand this is part of the problem but he has been only partly to blame for the games he has and will miss. If he improves as much next year as he has next he'll be well on the way to behaving more like a normal player.

2- His improvement on the field and his match winning ability. He has turned into a real important player for us to the point that when he doesn't start we are considered to be under strength. That's for a guy who is 21! I understand again that part of the problem is that he will miss too many games if always suspended but he is worth the risk, for now, based on what he has done on the pitch this season.

3- Mancini. The best thing about this is that Mancini as a player was as close to Balotelli as anyone has been over the past couple of decades. At the moment Mancini feels like the refs and the FA are against City and especially Balotelli but what would be best for everyone is if Mancini forgets all that and concentrates on looking after Mario. He more than anyone needs to get into the mind of the man because if he can't, no-one will. I would give it another season at least to see if Mancini can handle him even better than he already has.

4- The FA and refs. They cannot be allowed to dictate who we sign and sell. The comments by Poll absolutely disgusted me and confirmed all my fears about referee's. The FA are completely and utterly lacking in any kind of continuity and fairness. We should be creating a siege mentality against them and let them not that, whilst Balotelli is far from innocent, we will not allow there to be one rule for one and one for another. It is unacceptable that a club like ours would consider selling one of their best players because he isn't treated fairly. Would Fergie have sold Cantona?
 
I think Mario is a challenge to manage, the guy has great potential and I think will be great if all things click. Is he the right man for us? He has cost us with his indiscipline at some important times. This may be another.

His greatest problem lies in his head. Teams are constantly trying to wind him up waiting for a reaction. He needs to understand that and start to deal with it. People need to stop hiding behind the age thing.

I think the club will only decide to move him on at the point Mancini gives up on him? I feel Mancini personally is trying to sort him out and sees him as another challenge.

I would like to keep him, but can we guarantee he will not cost us a Final or a League decider. If he did:-
How would we as fans feel?
Will the love affair be over?

Last year when he got sent off in the Europa Cup, there were all forms of hatred towards him.

I'd be gutted if he left as he is an exceptional talent, but I see a major mistake in the future that may cost us big time.
 
stick with him, the guy has goals and entertainment in his boots.
do we really think if mario goes the negativity will cease, course it won't

its a valid question, but personally there are more positives than negatives for us to say arrivederci just yet.
 

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