jjeangi said:+1Dax777 said:Lol! When I read that response I thought "hmm! Jjeangi should be in here soon to set this straight," :) and in 2 seconds I refresh and you have it done already.jjeangi said:No fucking way what?
I see you have dug in on the pretext. Good for you :)alera said:2008 – 2011 - Everton 73 appearances. Its Hard not to be impressed with the amount of game time he has managed over the last 3 seasons.
Sabster said:Dax777 said:Pastore is not solid defensively, nor is he good in ariel battle, Felliani is. He is a fantastic box to box midfielder, hard to beat in the air, and hard to defend on set pieces. A fantastic tackler, fantastic in the air, fantastic at holding possession and breaking up plays. He is the epitome of a box to box Midfielder.Bunk said:You two are contradicting each other, are we talking about cover for de Jong or Yaya Toure? Because I've seen both mentioned here. Not that Fellaini would be adequate cover for either. If you're after an attacking midfielder who plays through the middle then Pastore’s your man, you're probably right about Mata and Hazard playing off the wing, but Pastore plays through the middle, he’s also 6ft 2, is that tall enough for you??
The way I look at it is as follows, we should only be targeting the best players in the world now (even when looking at cover positions and squad strengthening). Fellaini isn't in that bracket. I'd rather go without than getting bent over a barrel (again) by Everton for a really average player. He’s dirty, uncoordinated and needs a fucking hair cut. I've no idea where this "he's a great passer" comes from. If we’re gonna pillage Everton again I'd rather have Arteta.
Personally if he was not injury prone, I'd take him over any of our Center Mids.
But Dax, surely you have got this wrong.. How could he poissibly be better than the best DM ever in Nigel De Jong?
Dax777 said:Actually we are not ideologically different in that sense. i don't favor airballs either, but notice my wording above "he is hard to beat in the air, and hard to defend on set pieces" I.e. I am stating his situational advantages to you. On freekicks and Cornerkicks, we have no choice but to kick the ball in the air sometimes, even as just a variety strategy. Second, while you or I might be anti kicking the ball in the air, the opposition (especially in the premiership) isn't. Ao it is not a matter of whether I like it philosophically, but rather whether we are required to defend it. Which unfortunately we are. For their heights, Barry and De Jong are some of the best defensive headers out their, but frankly there is only so much yo can do at that height. Felliani isnot only tall, he is actually excellent at it.
Truth is it is unlikely we will get him, considering his injury prone nature and the acrimony between the clubs, but he will be a fantastic player if he could stay on the field. Both due to injury and indiscipline, which frankly are the only 2 weaknesses in his game.
Bunk said:Dax777 said:Actually we are not ideologically different in that sense. i don't favor airballs either, but notice my wording above "he is hard to beat in the air, and hard to defend on set pieces" I.e. I am stating his situational advantages to you. On freekicks and Cornerkicks, we have no choice but to kick the ball in the air sometimes, even as just a variety strategy. Second, while you or I might be anti kicking the ball in the air, the opposition (especially in the premiership) isn't. Ao it is not a matter of whether I like it philosophically, but rather whether we are required to defend it. Which unfortunately we are. For their heights, Barry and De Jong are some of the best defensive headers out their, but frankly there is only so much yo can do at that height. Felliani isnot only tall, he is actually excellent at it.
Truth is it is unlikely we will get him, considering his injury prone nature and the acrimony between the clubs, but he will be a fantastic player if he could stay on the field. Both due to injury and indiscipline, which frankly are the only 2 weaknesses in his game.
I see your point, but I do not feel for a second that having the ability to defend against such play requires scarifying a midfield place for someone like Fellaini upon those grounds, especially when we already have one of the tallest and strongest defenses in the league. At the end of the end of the day, he is simply not good enough for our squad, even if he was the best aerial defender in the world, he needs more than that, a lot more to get on our midfield roster.