Mayweather vs. Canelo Thread

NipHolmes said:
argyle said:
Yep she did. She must do it for a laugh.

personally I think it';s more sinister. I feel that she did that for the Casinos. Most people said Mayweather on Pts by unanimous decision, instead it's a majority decision, wonder how many millions have been saved?
Not sure its anything to do with that tbh mate
Then again who knows
The other two judges are getting a pounding too for their scores
4 round & 6 round victory,embarrassing.
 
The cookie monster said:
NipHolmes said:
argyle said:
Yep she did. She must do it for a laugh.

personally I think it';s more sinister. I feel that she did that for the Casinos. Most people said Mayweather on Pts by unanimous decision, instead it's a majority decision, wonder how many millions have been saved?
Not sure its anything to do with that tbh mate
Then again who knows
The other two judges are getting a pounding too for their scores
4 round & 6 round victory,embarrassing.


I scored it 9-3 to Mayweather. How someone scored it a draw is beyond comprehension.

Seriously pal, you watch Tennis and it's matter of fact, darts the same. Football involves a ref but 90+/100 the right team wins. In boxing I have witness Burns get a draw when he was beaten fair and square by Beltran and I witness a boxing masterclass get scored a draw. It is beyond wrong, it is imo shady.

Watch Pacquiao v Bradley, Pac won that fight by at least 3 rounds, Bradley even answered their joint promoter Bob Arum and conceded he lost. Yet Bradley is the champion and Pac is the loser. It tests your love for the sport as a fan, that's for sure.
 
bluemc1 said:
NipHolmes said:
bluemc1 said:
i thought points was points didn't know you had to say unanimous or majority in the states, interesting

It's usually the case on the whole as the markets basically, win by KO or PTs. However some casinos offer all kinds of markets, be it round ko's, group rounds ko, first or second half ko etc. Same goes for points, check skybet. A yank explained it all to me a few years back and said that went some way to explaining bad decisions/;


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The result is settled on the official way the fight was won:

KO = Knockout - (Typically this is when a fighter is knocked down and unable to beat the referee's count)
TKO = Technical Knockout - (Typically this is when a fighter is knocked down and gets up to beat the count but the referee stops the fight as he deems him not fit to continue or the referee feels the boxer is taking too much punishment and stops the fight)
RTD = Opponent Retired - (Typically this is when a boxer returns to his corner at the end of the round but doesn't come out for the next round as his corner or doctor has deemed him unfit to continue)
UD = Unanimous Decision - (This is when all three judges agree which fighter won the fight when it goes to points after the full number of scheduled rounds have been completed)
SD = Split Decision - (This is when two of the three judges score for the same fighter to win the fight and the third judges scores for the other fighter when it goes to points after the full number of scheduled rounds have been completed)
MD = Majority Decision - (This is when two of the three judges score for the same fighter to win the fight and the third judge scores it a draw when it goes to the scorecards after the full number of scheduled rounds have been completed)
TD = Technical Decision – (Typically this is when has been a fight has to be stopped because of an accidental head butt and a fighter is deemed not able to continue due to an injury. The fight must pass a certain number of rounds set by the competition rules of that fight and then it goes to the judges scorecards and the winner decided on who was winning at that point when the fight was stopped. If a fight doesn't reach the required round when it happens then the fight is a technical draw)
DQ = Opponent Disqualified – (Typically this is because one of the opponents have repeatedly or flagrantly fouled an opponent or violated other rules. If both fighters are disqualified then the fight is declared a no contest).






Casinos would offer anything and everything most likely. No way could that card be legit. I genuinely and whole-heartedly think something more sinister is part of it. Her card for Pac v Bradley was awful. Even Bradley thought he lost the fight!

yeah i remember i went to bed shattered from staying up to watch the fight as soon as the final bell went as i thought i knew the result, it was only the next day when my mate said"fancy Paquiao getting beat" i found out,
i should of known the casinos would offer more bets as when i was there once i was able to place a bet on the Wlad v Haye fight ending in a KO either way, not been able to find that bet here, i thought 2 big punchers with dodgy chins, i cant lose : (

Most bookies only go with points, that's UD, MD or SD. Problem is that is a vague system and is like us saying City to win but not being able to offer a suggest score like City 2-1.

UD was the most common prediction for this fight, it makes sense for a dodgy card. Personally I think she fucked the wrong fighter over, he's too big for this to get swept under a carpet, she will be hauled over hot coals for this.



On a tangent. Guys read up on Matthyse whom was on the undercard, he's been robbed a few times.

I believe the only way forward is an explanation for each rounds scoring and for the scoring to be made live by twitter for example. I.e
10-9 Mayweather, timing Alvarez well with the counter right hand straight. Not getting hit but catching Alvarez with counters. In control at throughout the round.

They have 60 seconds between rounds, they could do this a piece of piss. Transparency and less margin to exploit for crooks. If their scoring and explanation looks dodgy then they are called out on it directly after the fight. Maybe an interview with them to hear their thoughts on the fight and to explain their decision more broadly. That dodgy judge this morning should have been made to give a televised piece. Had I been Mayweather I'd have demanded that she did. I've watched fighters break down in tears after dodgy judging and it's the cancerous tumour of boxing along with the politics in the sport and various world sanctioning bodies. Our very own robin Reid suffered one of the worst ever judging decisions versus Sven Ottke and recently Chisora was robbed against Helenius.
 
NipHolmes said:
bluemc1 said:
NipHolmes said:
It's usually the case on the whole as the markets basically, win by KO or PTs. However some casinos offer all kinds of markets, be it round ko's, group rounds ko, first or second half ko etc. Same goes for points, check skybet. A yank explained it all to me a few years back and said that went some way to explaining bad decisions/;


Find the answer to your question

Boxing Rules
General Boxing Rules
Bets will be settled on the official result immediately after the fight.
Later announcements, enquiries or changes to the official result won't affect settlement.
In the event of a wrong result being read out in error then bets will be settled on the corrected result.
If a boxer is substituted all bets on the fight will be made void.
If the fight is postponed bets will be void unless it is rescheduled within 30 days of the original fight date.
If a no-contest or technical draw is declared, all bets will be made void
If the scheduled number of rounds for a fight differs to the number of rounds the fight was priced up with then all bets will be void on Round Betting , Fight Outcome and Under/Over Round betting. Bets will stand on the Fight Outright.
In any Outright Tournament markets once a boxer starts the competition he will be settled as a loser if he withdraws at any point thereafter
Market Betting Rules

Fight Outright
You're betting on: Who will be the official winner of the fight.

Fight Outcome
You're betting on: which fighter will win and whether they win it during the fight, or on points (e.g. R. Hatton to win on points).

If a points verdict is given before the full number of scheduled rounds then that is deemed as a win in rounds 1-12.
A points victory is only when the full number of rounds has been completed.
Fight Special Bets
For any special bets involving knockdowns a fighter must be physically knocked down by his opponent and the knockdown receives an official count by the referee or the fighter is knocked down and the referee deems the fighter unable to continue and stops the fight without the need for a count.
Method of Victory
You're betting on: which fighter will win and by what method (e.g. A Khan to win by knockout).

The result is settled on the official way the fight was won:

KO = Knockout - (Typically this is when a fighter is knocked down and unable to beat the referee's count)
TKO = Technical Knockout - (Typically this is when a fighter is knocked down and gets up to beat the count but the referee stops the fight as he deems him not fit to continue or the referee feels the boxer is taking too much punishment and stops the fight)
RTD = Opponent Retired - (Typically this is when a boxer returns to his corner at the end of the round but doesn't come out for the next round as his corner or doctor has deemed him unfit to continue)
UD = Unanimous Decision - (This is when all three judges agree which fighter won the fight when it goes to points after the full number of scheduled rounds have been completed)
SD = Split Decision - (This is when two of the three judges score for the same fighter to win the fight and the third judges scores for the other fighter when it goes to points after the full number of scheduled rounds have been completed)
MD = Majority Decision - (This is when two of the three judges score for the same fighter to win the fight and the third judge scores it a draw when it goes to the scorecards after the full number of scheduled rounds have been completed)
TD = Technical Decision – (Typically this is when has been a fight has to be stopped because of an accidental head butt and a fighter is deemed not able to continue due to an injury. The fight must pass a certain number of rounds set by the competition rules of that fight and then it goes to the judges scorecards and the winner decided on who was winning at that point when the fight was stopped. If a fight doesn't reach the required round when it happens then the fight is a technical draw)
DQ = Opponent Disqualified – (Typically this is because one of the opponents have repeatedly or flagrantly fouled an opponent or violated other rules. If both fighters are disqualified then the fight is declared a no contest).






Casinos would offer anything and everything most likely. No way could that card be legit. I genuinely and whole-heartedly think something more sinister is part of it. Her card for Pac v Bradley was awful. Even Bradley thought he lost the fight!

yeah i remember i went to bed shattered from staying up to watch the fight as soon as the final bell went as i thought i knew the result, it was only the next day when my mate said"fancy Paquiao getting beat" i found out,
i should of known the casinos would offer more bets as when i was there once i was able to place a bet on the Wlad v Haye fight ending in a KO either way, not been able to find that bet here, i thought 2 big punchers with dodgy chins, i cant lose : (

Most bookies only go with points, that's UD, MD or SD. Problem is that is a vague system and is like us saying City to win but not being able to offer a suggest score like City 2-1.

UD was the most common prediction for this fight, it makes sense for a dodgy card. Personally I think she fucked the wrong fighter over, he's too big for this to get swept under a carpet, she will be hauled over hot coals for this.



On a tangent. Guys read up on Matthyse whom was on the undercard, he's been robbed a few times.

I believe the only way forward is an explanation for each rounds scoring and for the scoring to be made live by twitter for example. I.e
10-9 Mayweather, timing Alvarez well with the counter right hand straight. Not getting hit but catching Alvarez with counters. In control at throughout the round.

They have 60 seconds between rounds, they could do this a piece of piss. Transparency and less margin to exploit for crooks. If their scoring and explanation looks dodgy then they are called out on it directly after the fight. Maybe an interview with them to hear their thoughts on the fight and to explain their decision more broadly. That dodgy judge this morning should have been made to give a televised piece. Had I been Mayweather I'd have demanded that she did. I've watched fighters break down in tears after dodgy judging and it's the cancerous tumour of boxing along with the politics in the sport and various world sanctioning bodies. Our very own robin Reid suffered one of the worst ever judging decisions versus Sven Ottke and recently Chisora was robbed against Helenius.

i knew Chisora would need to knock Helenius out,me and the mrs went helsinki for the Froch v Abraham fight and he was on the undercard, as we got there floods of people were leaving and we thought we had missed the fight, it was everyone leaving after the Helenius fight and not even staying for the main event, hes like god over there.
going back whatever happened to that williams lady who scored round 5 of Holyfield v Lewis 1 to Holyfield, how did she explain it ? and if she was bent how thick was she to score THAT round to Holyfield
 
NipHolmes said:
The cookie monster said:
NipHolmes said:
personally I think it';s more sinister. I feel that she did that for the Casinos. Most people said Mayweather on Pts by unanimous decision, instead it's a majority decision, wonder how many millions have been saved?
Not sure its anything to do with that tbh mate
Then again who knows
The other two judges are getting a pounding too for their scores
4 round & 6 round victory,embarrassing.


I scored it 9-3 to Mayweather.
Dont know where he won 3 rounds
1 or 2 tops and that's being generous

The female judge actually had Canelo winning 4 of the last 5 rounds
That's when Money was at his strongest

Truly a remarkable fuckup of scoring
 
No fuckup in Vegas you can bet on refs decisions too she s obviously in the pocket of certain syndicates as she is know for giving these dodgy decisions.

I had it at 12 - 0 after the bout he looked like he was going clubbing. What look like blows were all shrugged off he was hardly touched. Mayweather is a master boxer hands down the current best now I hear Amir Khan maybe up next. He is going to end his own career.
 
didactic said:
No fuckup in Vegas you can bet on refs decisions too she s obviously in the pocket of certain syndicates as she is know for giving these dodgy decisions.

I had it at 12 - 0 after the bout he looked like he was going clubbing. What look like blows were all shrugged off he was hardly touched. Mayweather is a master boxer hands down the current best now I hear Amir Khan maybe up next. He is going to end his own career.

Khan should never be allowed near the same ring as Mayweather
 
Hamann Pineapple said:
didactic said:
No fuckup in Vegas you can bet on refs decisions too she s obviously in the pocket of certain syndicates as she is know for giving these dodgy decisions.

I had it at 12 - 0 after the bout he looked like he was going clubbing. What look like blows were all shrugged off he was hardly touched. Mayweather is a master boxer hands down the current best now I hear Amir Khan maybe up next. He is going to end his own career.

Khan should never be allowed near the same ring as Mayweather

He is going to get battered.
 
didactic said:
Hamann Pineapple said:
didactic said:
No fuckup in Vegas you can bet on refs decisions too she s obviously in the pocket of certain syndicates as she is know for giving these dodgy decisions.

I had it at 12 - 0 after the bout he looked like he was going clubbing. What look like blows were all shrugged off he was hardly touched. Mayweather is a master boxer hands down the current best now I hear Amir Khan maybe up next. He is going to end his own career.

Khan should never be allowed near the same ring as Mayweather

He is going to get battered.

Hope he does and badly.
 

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