Media Discussion - 2023/24

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Donmcfc said:
Wasn't Joe undefeated as England manager?
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No. He won three, drew three and lost one in his brief reign as manager. The defeat was 2-0 at Hampden Park against Scotland just before the Scots headed off for the 1974 World Cup finals in West Germany.
 
smevchenko said:
In fairness, Southgate only played Trent for about 30 mins in the World Cup in Qatar, so clearly he's not that bothered about having to play him.

Obviously he has given him a go in midfield yesterday, and there are plenty of arguments you can make about whether he should continue with that or try Gallagher, Wharton etc.

But if hes prepared to try things like that out, I don't get why you wouldn't try Bellingham a bit further back and give Phil a go centrally. Bellingham, like him or not, is a brilliant player and if Southgate wasn't so concerned with being overly defensive, he could try and give England a bit more of an attacking mentality and play Palmer/Saka - Foden - Gordon behind Kane
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I guess we'll have to see what he does next match.

Shame Slovenia is the 3rd match rather than the 2nd, as it would presumably be the easier one. Against Denmark, he may go for a more solid defensive midfielder to play with Rice.

Winning the group is important, as the runners-up probably play Germany. Winning the group gets a 3rd place side.
 
chaddblue said:
We sacked him and for nearly 20 years we've ridiculed him... might be something to do with that

Quite legitimately by the way
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We also allowed him to extend his career with us and gave him his first serious management opportunity. We take the mickey out of him, but as you say, more than legitimately. That season still pains me now. His reaction (or total lack of one) after we finally won the CL says it all about him and City.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
I guess we'll have to see what he does next match.

Shame Slovenia is the 3rd match rather than the 2nd, as it would presumably be the easier one. Against Denmark, he may go for a more solid defensive midfielder to play with Rice.

Winning the group is important, as the runners-up probably play Germany. Winning the group gets a 3rd place side.
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Yeah, end up going defensive of sorts against Denmark, squeak a win, and then rest a load of players for Slovenia to give them all some game time rather than sort out his attacking issue with the forward line
 
smevchenko said:
In fairness, Southgate only played Trent for about 30 mins in the World Cup in Qatar, so clearly he's not that bothered about having to play him.

Obviously he has given him a go in midfield yesterday, and there are plenty of arguments you can make about whether he should continue with that or try Gallagher, Wharton etc.

But if hes prepared to try things like that out, I don't get why you wouldn't try Bellingham a bit further back and give Phil a go centrally. Bellingham, like him or not, is a brilliant player and if Southgate wasn't so concerned with being overly defensive, he could try and give England a bit more of an attacking mentality and play Palmer/Saka - Foden - Gordon behind Kane
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Bang on, he is obsessed with someone defensive being next to Rice. It is crazy. All I have heard all season is how amazing Rice is and worth every penny. Why is he unable to hold on his own? Bellingham would still chip in as he can go box to box very easily and allow our best number 10 in Foden to play that role. It seems every tournament we can all see the issues, yet that gorp doesn't.
 
jonah62 said:
I’d be happy if Phil never kicked a ball again in this tournament
Let’s be honest England aren’t going deep, so he can train,rest up, watch the clown show evolve from the sidelines, and not be the media’s whipping boy
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Agree.
Besides, I couldn't root for a team including Bellingham, Arnold, or any average player overhyped by the anti-City media. Southgate is complicit in turning this side into the "Bellingham Team" the cartel punditry love. fuck 'em.
 
Mad 4 It said:
Yes play Gordon on the left Foden behind Kane and Rice Bellingham behind. Bellingham box to box
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That would seem an exciting, attacking team.
But, now Bellingham has scored the first English goal of the tournament, there is no way anyone else will get the #10 shirt.
I agree Bellingham is an excellent player, but he is an egotist who will demand to get the captaincy very soon.
Southgate will be shit-scared of Bellingham and Phil will have to stay wide on the left if he is selected.
A bigger problem for England will be Harry Kane's attitude to Bellingham ?
"King" Harry is no longer golden bollocks in the team, or with the media...
 
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