Media Thread 2020/21

[MillionMilesAway]

James Lawton was not averse to a few digs at City. At the time of the Tevez Welcome To Manchester poster, Lawton was on 'The Monday Club' and said:
"City have no class, United would not do anything like that".
I assume he had not cast eyes in the direction of the Stretford End for a decade. He was also seemingly unaware of the TWO large posters on the OT westbound motorway exit after Cantona moved from Leeds. By amazing coincidence, over a picture of Cantona, they said ......er....."Welcome to Manchester".

That was in his later days, when he was infatuated with Ferguson and notably declining. Almost every piece in his last years at the Indie were puff pieces.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Listening to talkshite on the way back last night and I am not taking anything away from Leicester here, but they were banging on how wonderful their owners were. Ploughing huge amounts of money into Leicesters setup etc . Another couple of top 4 and trophies will see them vilified, keeping out the other wankers from the crappy named top6

And their owner is very close to the regime in Thailand which has a shocking human rights record...or at least it did have when our club was owned by a Thai businessman and we never stopped hearing about it. And of course not forgetting that Leicester were fined for breaching FFP just three years ago.
I am not having a pop at Leicester and am delighted about their success. It is just the media double standards that make me sick.

 

[Marvin]

In the first half of C20 Moss Side was home to a large Jewish community and they naturally supported City. A break came with the signing of Bert and many Jews went over to the dark side. Many, however, stayed to be prominently associated with City: the Bernstein family, the Bookbinders and many others
Remember that 102 year old mascot? Vera Cohen, a remarkable lady who has been a season ticket holder since 1930.

I didn't know that. I don't think there is an Arab v Jew aspect to this but there is a racist element in which an Arab Sheikh is targeted as a unfit person football owner in contrast to many others. What is the difference between Alisher Usmanov, Roman Abramovic and Sheikh Mansour? All are oligarchs with billions are with their hands on levers of power. One is targeted, the others are not.

I was supporting Leicester yesterday but the media fawning from Ian Wright etc almost made me want to go the other way. The owners of Leicester CIty have received patronage from the King of Thailand which is a military dictatorship and the same people that went crazy over Thaksin are the same people lauding the ownership of LCFC. I have nothing against LCFC owners as football owners but where are the critics of Thaksin now? What have they got to say about King Power? The very name gives the game away

 

[Marvin]

And their owner is very close to the regime in Thailand which has a shocking human rights record...or at least it did have when our club was owned by a Thai businessman and never stopped hearing about it. And of course not forgetting that Leicester were fined for breaching FFP just three years ago.
I am not having a pop at Leicester and am delighted about their success. It is just the media double standards that make me sick.

I had the same thought.

 

[urban genie]

I think the majority of the hostility to City is commercial but it doesn't explain it all otherwise Chelsea would have also been vilified when they were Man Utd's main opponent.

It's political and for some in a minority racial/xenephobia. Also for many rag journos it's bitterness and an inferiority complex


The glazers are major donors to trump and also have small links to companies involved in ilegal Israeli settlements, as is Abramovich who is coming under a lot of criticism outside the UK.
The leicester owner and King Power are close to the present PM of Thailand who is a military dictator in all but name, and has dissapeared dissenters over the years.


This is not of interest to our journos as the Rags are the establishment in football and chelsea seem to get an easier ride probably because London is a massive centre for russian money laundering.

 

[KS55]

they did a whole series on them, media,fans,player ,and maybe another one but i cant think what, they are all brilliant, unless your a united fan :)

The one your are missing is The Staff.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Alright Nick you've said it so many times before.
So give us some answers and solutions please and not just problems.
Also please explain how any proposals would apply to the wider society and not just football.

This is not a thing, there are no entrance requirements to the grand bazaar of global capitalism beyond the means to trade, criminality and issues of national security. Those who set their stalls up at the entrance do so under entirely false pretences.

We know the right wing want to impede the growing economic muscle of China, but the Left? In truth I've given up trying to work out what they want.

Both right and left are highly selective as to whom their bogus rules apply and even more so on how they should be applied, or even what they might be, or what they hope to achieve.

For the most part this bullshit is about shaping public opinion rather than a desire for practical solutions, because in reality the rules of the game have not been broken, there can be no practical solution because there is no problem.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

It's political and for some in a minority racial/xenephobia. Also for many rag journos it's bitterness and an inferiority complex

The glazers are major donors to trump and also have small links to companies involved in ilegal Israeli settlements, as is Abramovich who is coming under a lot of criticism outside the UK.


This is not of interest to our journos as the Rags are the establishment in football and chelsea seem to get an easier ride probably because London is a massive centre for russian money laundering

The biggest dishonesty about the way City are covered is the way some elements in the media try to link Sheikh Mansour to human rights abuses. Abu Dhabi has a better record on human rights than most other Gulf states but justifiable criticism is often made about the conditions that some foreign workers endure, especially at construction firms.
In fact most of the big operations in the UAE, especially in construction, are owned and run by European or US companies. There are at least 5,000 British firms operating there, including all the household names. But you never hear complaints about "slave labour" attached to the UK or US firms who actually run all the sites.

 

[jitsubluedan]

And their owner is very close to the regime in Thailand which has a shocking human rights record...or at least it did have when our club was owned by a Thai businessman and we never stopped hearing about it. And of course not forgetting that Leicester were fined for breaching FFP just three years ago.
I am not having a pop at Leicester and am delighted about their success. It is just the media double standards that make me sick.

Whilst Leicester have won the PL and now an FA cup, they’re not dominating the league and therefore, don’t threaten the cartel clubs per se.

This season’s PL win has rattled them - we were written off at the beginning of the year and then we just clicked and went on that phenomenal run of games.

Yet again we’ve set new records and our style of play has true football fans drooling.

The media dickheads with their agenda don’t like it; they can’t have other football fans appreciating what we’ve achieved so they start writing about how our owners are linked to human rights abuses.

I mean, what self respecting individual could actually condone a club that turns a blind eye to such atrocities? That’s the point of these articles.

The fact that this country happily jumps into bed with Saudi Arabia when it suits them commercially is irrelevant, but I believe we should be pushing this point across as much as possible when responding to these shills.

I also think they’re re-setting the narrative now just in case we win the UCL.

After all, they were the ones that said City couldn’t be considered as a great team unless they won the CL. If we do, it gives them a cop out to not acknowledge it.

Oh and absolutely, their narrative is racist!

 

[mad4city]

Irish’fan’ obsesses about the dippers or the rags, Perth is full of them and I always wonder why they never chose Brighton or Leyton Orient, Cardiff or Wrexham?

There appears to be an unwritten rule amongst Irish sports journalists that all football be presented through the prism of Manchester United or Liverpool.
Hence, you'll get presenters blatantly asking pundits, in the build up to a World Cup Final, "which of these players would be a good fit for Man Utd?", others asking why City are so boring and "seemingly unable to produce the excitement of Liverpool" (this, during City's current record-breaking run in Europe), at one time, RTE would show all of Utd's Champions League games live and follow the programme with a Champions League highlights show where the first game up was always, always (you guessed it) United's, and let's never forget the flurry of papers bemoaning Liverpool's "heartache" when the finished on 9997 points or something but still couldn't surpass "moneybags City" etc etc.