Media Thread 2020/21

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I had the same thought.

I wanted the under dog to win not that there is much difference between the two clubs I wanted them to win for the owners family given the tragedy. Also they are well run do not sack managers all the time. Had not thought about the patronage element or its comparison with Thaksin or city but what did bother me was the fawning over them given the sponsorship naming rights issue / FFP but ultimately it was a side issue in relative to the under dog the family tragedy and being well run and not sacking managers all the time

Did King Power sponsorship ever even get investigated when they played in the champions league after winning the title ? Seems it was assumed to be legitimate whilst our deals where assumed to be illegitimate
 
The ‘hate’ all things Muslim narrative has really ramped up again. People in general have been brought up to fear the gulf states. The history is not a great read but the west has nothing to shout about either. The rag tops can’t get past their own personal views and write drivel after drivel to push their own narrative.

MCFC has fuck all to do with politics, wars or religion. The media have turned our good fortunes into a political vehicle to attack the club.

America = good.

Abu Dhabi = bad.

Why don’t they turn their attentions to the laundered money going into the scousers or why the Leicester owner can seemingly sponsor his own stadium while coming from a clean country like Thailand? The hypocritical bent bastards can fuck off.
I agree that people have been brought up to fear the gulf states and it goes further than America v Abu Dhabi.
We have been told time and time again it’s Israel good and Palestine bad. Imho the news we get from this area is heavily censured by the West. We are indoctrinated to believe only the Arab states and Muslims perform atrocities.
There is an excellent book out there called “Dining with Terrorists” by Phil Rees . It’s essentially built around the phrase that one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.
 
Surprised this uncomfortable article hasn't been removed from t'interweb thingy:

Standard Chartered fined $1.1bn for money-laundering and sanctions breaches | Standard Chartered | The Guardian

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You forgot this as well

 
I think the majority of the hostility to City is commercial but it doesn't explain it all otherwise Chelsea would have also been vilified when they were Man Utd's main opponent.
It is all commercially driven to which other elements emerge, such as Little Englander, racist tropes and the partisan nature of football fans in general.

Chelsea were subjected to a similar level of contempt at the start but that soon subsided when the old Sky 3 could still attain CL through the extra space. Also, it wasn’t too long until we came on the scene which made the medias cosy 2+2 (Northern + Southern) a thing of the past.
 
I didn't know that. I don't think there is an Arab v Jew aspect to this but there is a racist element in which an Arab Sheikh is targeted as a unfit person football owner in contrast to many others. What is the difference between Alisher Usmanov, Roman Abramovic and Sheikh Mansour? All are oligarchs with billions are with their hands on levers of power. One is targeted, the others are not.
Great post Marvin. It isn't an Arab v Jew thing but there certainly is a racist and patronising element to this, where Arabs are seen as untrustworthy, backward, backstabbing, bribe-taking, lacking in morality etc. and Europeans are seen as members of an advanced society, paragons of decency, morality and financial rectitude. This is a lazy, racist stereotype.

There's also the issue of "human rights", which is one-sided when we have millions in poverty, in low-paid jobs with little or no security, without a decent roof over their heads or even a roof at all, suffering lower standards of education or can't afford university.

There's a fascinating article in the latest issue of Harvard Business Review about attitudes to China. HBR is certainly no propaganda outlet but it makes the point that we look at China through the lens of human rights, whereas 95% of Chinese citizens are very happy with their lives and the leadership. That's because their leadership has brought them prosperity and financial security, creating a well-off and entrepreneurial middle-class. In return, they ask that these people don't rock the boat, which they're happy to agree to. China has never been a functioning democracy and may never be, certainly not in our lifetimes. Same applies to the UAE, which celebrates its 50th anniversary as a sovereign state later this year. It's been built from nothing, on the wealth from natural resources.

Organs like the Guardian ('organ' both in terms of being a media outlet and pricks) would cry blue murder if the USA or UK was ripping-off those resources, yet it also has a problem with brown-skinned people using that wealth, on their land, to build a nation and provide high quality housing, healthcare and education to its citizens. And I suspect the majority of the UAE's citizens are quite happy with this and quite prefer it to a group of self-serving politicians siphoning off vast wodges of cash, while simultaneously promising the earth yet delivering little.

Yes there are faults, particularly with the treatment of migrant workers. Yes they can be seen as repressive and intolerant of dissent, but when you look around the region, at place like Iraq and Syria, maybe that's the lesser of two evils. I suspect the majority of the people of the UAE are more than happy with their lot, yet papers like The Guardian would be quite happy to see them descend to the levels that some of their neighbours have, while tut-tutting over the outcome far less than they attack them now.

Rant over.
 
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The biggest dishonesty about the way City are covered is the way some elements in the media try to link Sheikh Mansour to human rights abuses. Abu Dhabi has a better record on human rights than most other Gulf states but justifiable criticism is often made about the conditions that some foreign workers endure, especially at construction firms.
In fact most of the big operations in the UAE, especially in construction, are owned and run by European or US companies. There are at least 5,000 British firms operating there, including all the household names. But you never hear complaints about "slave labour" attached to the UK or US firms who actually run all the sites.
When they mention ‘Slave Labour’, ‘Atrocious Conditions’ and ‘Illegal Detainment’ do they not also refer to our fellow Europeans who come to this country to pick the harvest, living in sheds and caravans and earning less than minimal wage? What about our consent to allow detainees to be transferred to Guantanamo or the legitimate refugees forced to live in disgraceful conditions, during a pandemic, conditions that our very own soldiers were forced to endure not too long ago.

Selective reporting confirms that it is ‘Organised and clear’.
 
Great post Marvin. It isn't an Arab v Jew thing but there certainly is a racist and patronising element to this, where Arabs are seen as untrustworthy, backward, backstabbing, bribe-taking, lacking in morality etc. and Europeans are seen as members of an advancd society, paragons for decency, morality and financial rectitude. This is a lazy, racist stereotype.

There's also the issue of "human rights", which is one-sided when we have millions in poverty, in low-paid jobs with little or no security, without a decent roof over their heads or even a roof at all, suffering lower standards of education or can't afford university.

There's a fascinating article in the latest issue of Harvard Business Review about attitudes to China. HBR is certainly no propaganda outlet but it makes the point that we look at China through the lens of human rights, whereas 95% of Chinese citizens are very happy with their lives and the leadership. That's because their leadership has brought them prosperity and financial security, creating a well-off and entrepreneurial middle-class. In return, they ask that these people don't rock the boat, which they're happy to agree to. China has never been a functioning democracy and may neve be, certainly not in our lifetimes. Same applies to the UAE, which celebrates its 50th anniversary as a sovereign state later this year. It's been built from nothing, on the wealth from natural resources.

Organs like the Guardian ('organ' both in terms of being a media outlet and pricks) would cry blue murder if the USA or UK was ripping-off those resources, yet it also has a problem with brown-skinned people using that wealth, on their land, to build a nation and provide high quality housing, healthcare and education to its citizens. And I suspect the majority of the UAE's citizens are quite happy with this and quite prefer it to a group of self-serving politicians siphoning off vast wodges of cash, while simultaneously promising the earth yet delivering little.

Yes there are faults, particularly with the treatment of migrant workers. Yes they can be seen as repressive and intolerant of dissent, but when you look around the region, at place like Iraq and Syria, maybe that's the lesser of two evils. I suspect the majority of the people of the UAE are more than happy with their lot, yet papers like The Guardian would be quite happy to see them descend to the levels that some of their neighbours have, while tut-tutting over the outcome far less than they attack them now.

Rant over.
We almost need the Saudi Crown Prince to buy united to then see how the media play it - go down the same lines as attacking us (some would argue Saudi has a worst record than UAE) or completely ignore it so as not to upset the club (their PR team would be strong arming the media left right and centre) and the 666m followers. Incidentally had a city email recently that touted a figure of "471m loyal followers" - presume a group figure
 
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