Media Thread - 2021/22

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waspish said:
When the Liverpool end full why was there still thousands outside? Only one reason thousands of Liverpool fans got in without legit tickets or jibbed in earlier also thousands of fans got in the queue with fake tickets or fancied there chances of getting in.


Media full on apologetic for Liverpool fans maybe it was 70% organisation by French police 30% Liverpool fans but bottom line is if there is 20k tickets available for final and twice three time amount of fans turn up what do think will happen!

Oh when has a champs league final ever been delayed by 30mins?
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Prestwich_Blue said:
Conn's joined the race to the bottom in football journalism. In fact, he's become the Usain Bolt of football journalists in that respect.

He used to be one of the very few who did dig out uncomfortable facts that the mainstream either couldn't be bothered to look for or knew and wilfully ignored. He did more than any other journalist to highlight the lies and cover-ups over Hillsborough.

Back in 2012, when united were about to float on the NYSE, I came across some information that suggested they'd pulled a fast one and were using accounts that shouldn't have been used to provide financial information to potential investors. The accounts they should've used wouldn't have been quite as flattering.

I spoke to him about it and we spent the best part of a day pulling it together. He ran it and united had to issue a statement saying their next accounts would show a worse position, plus the float price had to be dropped by $2. No one else would have taken on and run that story; only him.

Then he got our FFP case hopelessly wrong and I started to suspect he was acting under instructions. That was (for me) proven beyond doubt when he picked up my tweet about the key evidence presented in the New York court, to support the Open Skies case against the three Gulf Airlines. I was miffed that he didn't contact me but at least it finally got aired. The next day he'd changed his story completely and I can only imagine he'd been told, in no uncertain terms, that the truth, based on actual documentary evidence, didn't fit the media narrative. After all, we know the Guardian, for all their liberal credentials, are closet racists where Muslim Arabs involved in football are concerned.

Had Conn come out in respect of Saturday's events and said that everyone involved - UEFA, the clubs and the fans - needed to have a good look at themselves then I'd have regained some respect for him. But UEFA, who were their allies during the CAS case, are now the enemy. It's so Orwellian.
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Bravo, well said..

Especially the first sentence of your final paragraph. They're ALL to blame; UEFA, the French authorities/police, Liverpool the club and its fans.

And the supine UK media should be included in that list, for refusing to ask the questions it hasn't (so far) asked of Liverpool the club and its fans, preferring instead to exonerate them even without doing the proper investigation in the first place.

Anyway, f**k 'em all.. we're the Champions!
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Conn's joined the race to the bottom in football journalism. In fact, he's become the Usain Bolt of football journalists in that respect.

He used to be one of the very few who did dig out uncomfortable facts that the mainstream either couldn't be bothered to look for, or knew and wilfully ignored. He did more than any other journalist to highlight the lies and cover-ups over Hillsborough.

Back in 2012, when united were about to float on the NYSE, I came across some information that suggested they'd pulled a fast one, and were using accounts that shouldn't have been used to provide potentially misleading financial information to investors. The accounts they should've used wouldn't have been quite as flattering.

I spoke to him about it and we spent the best part of a day pulling it together. He ran it, and united had to issue a statement saying their next accounts would show a worse position, plus the float price had to be dropped by $2. No one else would have taken on and run that story; only him.

Then he got our FFP case hopelessly wrong and I started to suspect he was acting under instructions. That was (for me) proven beyond doubt when he picked up my tweet about the key evidence presented in the New York court, to support the Open Skies case against the three Gulf Airlines. I was miffed that he didn't contact me but at least it finally got aired.

The next day he'd changed his story completely and I can only imagine he'd been told, in no uncertain terms, that the truth, based on actual documentary evidence, didn't fit the media narrative. After all, we know the Guardian, for all their liberal credentials, are closet racists where Muslim Arabs involved in football are concerned.

Had Conn come out in respect of Saturday's events and said that everyone involved - UEFA, the clubs and the fans - needed to have a good look at themselves then I'd have regained some respect for him. But UEFA, who were their allies during the CAS case, are now the enemy. It's so Orwellian.
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Superb.
 
I find it very surprising that there's no footage of Melissa Reddy at Real Madrid's victory parade.
What with her surely being a fan of theirs after all the smoke she was blowing up their arses outside the Bernabeu prior to our 2nd leg semi there.

Must be getting her bags packed for Munich or something then
 
Kippax77 said:
I find it very surprising that there's no footage of Melissa Reddy at Real Madrid's victory parade.
What with her surely being a fan of theirs after all the smoke she was blowing up their arses outside the Bernabeu prior to our 2nd leg semi there.

Must be getting her bags packed for Munich or something
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Probably interviewing for Sky Sports Deutschland as we speak.
 
Chris in London said:
Not the club, but someone within it.

how else did Robertson’s cousin get turned away with a valid ticket? Because the QR code had already been used. How? Because someone duplicated it.
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Which is why many fans turned up early in the hope of getting in with their fake tickets before the genuine ticket was used.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Conn's joined the race to the bottom in football journalism. In fact, he's become the Usain Bolt of football journalists in that respect.

He used to be one of the very few who did dig out uncomfortable facts that the mainstream either couldn't be bothered to look for, or knew and wilfully ignored. He did more than any other journalist to highlight the lies and cover-ups over Hillsborough.

Back in 2012, when united were about to float on the NYSE, I came across some information that suggested they'd pulled a fast one, and were using accounts that shouldn't have been used to provide potentially misleading financial information to investors. The accounts they should've used wouldn't have been quite as flattering.

I spoke to him about it and we spent the best part of a day pulling it together. He ran it, and united had to issue a statement saying their next accounts would show a worse position, plus the float price had to be dropped by $2. No one else would have taken on and run that story; only him.

(Here it is: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/jul/10/manchester-united-accounts-share-offer?CMP=gu_com)

Then he got our FFP case hopelessly wrong and I started to suspect he was acting under instructions. That was (for me) proven beyond doubt when he picked up my tweet about the key evidence presented in the New York court, to support the Open Skies case against the three Gulf Airlines. I was miffed that he didn't contact me but at least it finally got aired.

The next day he'd changed his story completely and I can only imagine he'd been told, in no uncertain terms, that the truth, based on actual documentary evidence, didn't fit the media narrative. After all, we know the Guardian, for all their liberal credentials, are closet racists where Muslim Arabs involved in football are concerned.

Had Conn come out in respect of Saturday's events and said that everyone involved - UEFA, the clubs and the fans - needed to have a good look at themselves then I'd have regained some respect for him. But UEFA, who were their allies during the CAS case, are now the enemy. It's so Orwellian.
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It does feel Orwellian. It is really bizarre that no one in the media is prepared to report what happened in an impartial way. It is pretty clear that the police and UEFA bungled the security operation. But it also pretty clear there was an issue with fake tickets at the Liverpool end of the stadium. The French Government claim that 40,000 fake tickets were used to try and access the stadium seems very unlikely but that doesn't mean there wasn't an issue with some fake tickets. The Liverpool Echo reported three days before the match that police had smashed a fake ticketing operation and a man was arrested in Cheshire. We have all seen video footage of LFC fans climbing into the stadium (separate to the local youths) and social media claims of fans' jibbing in with fake tickets. Why is this being ignored?
 
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