Media thread 2022/23

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Can someone fill me in on what linekar said on motd- didn’t watch it.
Lineker asked "does the title win come with a cloud hanging over it because of the 115 charges?"

Shearer dismissed it with "What they've done, they've done on the pitch"

Shearer's response quite surprised me to be honest.
 
Can someone fill me in on what linekar said on motd- didn’t watch it.
Didn't think it was that bad to be honest.
If he hadn't said anything about it, it would have been odd, given that all non City fans up and down the country would have been shouting it at their tellies. Thanks to our wonderful media and their propaganda against us of course. At least he didn't draw parallels with the holocaust this time.
 
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It’s mad the things I’ve read this week and especially today.

- People saying the leagues easier to win now
- Peps a chequebook manager, he’s had an open budget to write blank cheques
- City have spent X billion so it’s no surprise we’ve won the league

I can tell you, this is all bullshit, they’re incredibly lazy arguments which hold no weight when faced with facts. When the media say no one can compete with Pep due to finances, they’re actually getting his name mixed up with Alex Ferguson.

Only one team in the 90’s was consistently breaking transfer records, that was Utd, and no one was saying anything. In the early 2000’s they aggressively paid well over the odds for players, whilst everyone else was left behind. Leeds nearly bankrupted themselves between 2000-2003 trying to keep up with them and they failed to achieve anything. In 2001 they spent the equivalent in inflation to what Nottingham Forest have just spent to survive in the PL. In basic terms, PL teams have far more money now. Without FFP the majority of teams could break the British record transfer fee no problem, whereas in the 90’s only one team could do it consistently, that was Utd.

Alex Ferguson is the actual chequebook manager, he was the one with an open budget. He had no FFP to contend with, and he over inflated the market so much, that player values went beyond what most clubs could afford. In the early 00’s, teams at the mid to lower end of the league, were still working on budgets of the early 90’s. Whilst Ferguson signed players like Veron, Nistelrooy, Ferdinand, Rooney, Carrick, for exorbitant fees, way over the market values at the time. Ferdinand value was 2.5x over what the rest of the league was paying for the top market players. It would be like paying the equivalent of £250M today. He was doing it for years, and more to the point, for a long time when no one else could compete financially.

When Chelsea came along in 2002 with new ownership, now Ferguson and Utd had competition in the market. Chelsea went toe to toe with them, they went wild at the start with their signings, with no apparent regard for the actual value of players. As of last year, they’ve managed to inflate transfers on 14 occasions, by paying over market value for players. In comparison, Utd have done it 12 times, Liverpool and Arsenal just three times, Newcastle and Aston Villa only once and City, just twice. We only did it with Grealish and Diaz. Both are brilliant players, but Diaz was slightly over the market value at the time, and Grealish was quite a bit over. However, interestingly Grealish came down to a buyout clause in his contract, which was actually set in a year where the market values were inflated, so Aston Villa’s analytics team must’ve felt he could achieve the market cap. So in their defence, it was actually not such an over inflated figure. But It was only over inflated for us, because we had Covid and the transfer markets crashed quite a bit. If Covid hadn’t of happened, the £100M mark would’ve likely already been broken.

Pep and his teams transfer policy has been absolutely incredible since he arrived. We picked up Ederson, Stones, Laporte, Walker, Bernardo, Rodri, Gundogan, Haaland, Alvarez, for all around half the price or less, of top transfer caps in those season. If we had followed Utd and Chelsea’s past transfer dealings, we would’ve signed someone like John Stones for about £100M. But we didn’t, we got him a great price for the time.

The only reason City have had to spend Billions, is because Utd inflated the market from 93-2002, and then both Chelsea and Utd continued to do that up until this very day. When City signed Robinho for £30M+ in 2008, Utd had already got near that figure 3 times in 6 years with Veron, Ferdinand and Rooney, and Chelsea had got near that figure 5 times. Meaning the tone had been set for a top valued player. But If they hadn’t of inflated the transfers paying over the odds collectively on 8 occasions, in the years before. Robinho would’ve gone for around £15M. Since we were taken over, both Chelsea and Utd have consistently bought more expensive players than City, which result in the price of all top players going up. Whereas City have largely stayed under the radar of the top transfer bands. Which suggests our financial team has a great understanding of what the fair prices are in the climate, and will walk away from deals, that could cause inflation in transfers. Compared with Utd and Chelsea, who don’t seem to care at all, and never get called out for over spending or making stupid deals.

The fact Pep is still able to dominate when there is so many people at the table is astounding. We have signed many players for prices that other clubs could’ve easily afforded. Take our last window for example, Haaland, Akanji, Alvarez and Ortega. All players picked up for minimal fees, yet all of them could probably get in any side in the league. Whereas Chelsea went crazy, and again paid over the odds for Enzo Fernandez and Utd paid over the odds for both Anthony and Casemiro. However, it was the media slagging us off for signing Haaland.

It speaks volumes as to the job Pep and the club as a whole have done in the last few years. Whatever the media say, we should all be incredibly proud and extremely satisfied in the way we’ve gone about becoming a dominate force. We’ve done it in a better way, than both Utd and Chelsea have and that’s a fact, not just a bullshit opinion from some journalist who has never done any actual research.
That's a very well thought out and accurate post but it's all about setting a narrative these days...
 
Lineker asked "does the title win come with a cloud hanging over it because of the 115 charges?"

Shearer dismissed it with "What they've done, they've done on the pitch"

Shearer's response quite surprised me to be honest.
Shearer is keeping his powder dry for the fight against Newcastle in the press
 
I’m FUCKING SICK TO FUCKING DEATH of this twat Delaney slagging us off every fucking day, of every fucking week and getting a warm welcome to the Etihad with opened arms each game while getting free food, drink and best seats in the house.
This cockroach enjoys our hospitality for free and hates us.
How has the club not read his daily tweets and thought enough is enough?
Are we that fucking daft?
How else are we supposed to put semen in his free cupcake and piss in his coffee?
 
Lineker likes to take in refugees in the safety of his mansion with all the security and safety his wealth allows him too. One person. Then he thinks this virtue signalling gives him claim to being part of the left wing of political ideology in a way that overrides the financial status that technically makes him part of an upper class that's traditionally associated with power and oppression. As though he's bought himself a pass which he can show at the metaphorical gates of a Marxist heaven.

The problem with these kinds of champagne socialists is that they then lord it over the traditional left, the working classes, using this as a barometer for how we should all behave. They apply their own version of empathy to us based on this idealism of being to the left. Assuming we should follow suite but being so disconnected from the every day life of the man on the street they can't comprehend that one refugee for him, in his safe rich home, means a hundred for us, unchecked, poor, desperate, the worst of the bunch, in a lawless area, fighting for resources that aren't there. There aren't no gates around our houses, our communities, like there is his home. It's murderers, rapists, addicts and people with trauma who need help living in an area that can't afford to provide it.

So we say hang on, we aren't against helping people, we just ask for it to be done properly so our families aren't at risk. And he says from the safety of his twitter account in his warm safe mansion that we are ignorant, racist, bigots, were wrong.

This is the mindset of this man, who says these things.
 
This thread needs binning.... Even match of the day are now bringing up the 'charges' or the big eared **** was, let's get the 99 match of the day coverage and compare.....time to stop giving these cunts the pleasure they must get reading this thread every day! Stop posting their bile, stop reading their bile in the first place. Positive city media only I'd say... I'm done with most football podcasts after last week, absolute fuckin disgrace the lot of them fuck em all!
 
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