"Metrolink puts tram service on for football and music fans"

[dadnlad]

When people draw up plans for new Arenas/Stadiums/housing estates is there no insistence that the architects and developers include discussions with TfGM and the traffic managers from the council before they present anything to the planning committee?
Or is that too much common sense for them?

My Stepmother used to say that a lot of folks had letters after their names and degrees etc and were brainy but they had no common sense!!

said it bfore but all that construction work a guided busway to edge of town wouldv been answer

 

[jockblue]

When people draw up plans for new Arenas/Stadiums/housing estates is there no insistence that the architects and developers include discussions with TfGM and the traffic managers from the council before they present anything to the planning committee?
Or is that too much common sense for them?

My Stepmother used to say that a lot of folks had letters after their names and degrees etc and were brainy but they had no common sense!!

Pretty sure there was a traffic plan segment in which the planning authority made it clear they would not tolerate any additional car parking as part of the application for the Arena. And that was it. There was some discussion about additional levels of public transport but it was all on the "well, we'll ask" rather than anything firm.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

The club needs to buy into the network and run its own trams for fans on match days

If it was remotely fit for purpose they would probably look at it.

Etihad Rail in MENA is a scale operator in freight across the entire region and is progressively entering the passenger market with the ambition of partnering with KSA,Oman and the GCC to provide Cross border services including HyperLoop.

Our metro is a loss making,dysfunctional shambles....Etihad would probably want paying £ MILLIONS £ to take the financial risk associated with buying, operating & investing in it.

HH SHEIKH MANSOUR invests in projects that produce substantial, sustainable returns and growth...Metro doesn't and won't.

The club needs to buy into the network and run its own trams for fans on match days

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

stalker alert

It's Blue Mist mate. His mum ties a label with his address on round his neck whenever he goes out.

 

[Blue Mist]

It's Blue Mist mate. His mum ties a label with his address on round his neck whenever he goes out.

And my gloves are on elastic threaded through the arms of my coat

 

[Oystercatcher28]

So far, it's only being spent in London.

And Rwanda.

 

[East Level 2]

If it’s still 1 tram every 10-15 minutes it’s absolutely pointless. They need a tram every 5 minutes, like pretty much every other major city.

I'm not sure how many other tube stations serve The Emirates but Arsenal station on the Piccadilly line has a train every 3 minutes and each holds about the same as two double trams. Our "wonderful" Metrolink is significantly newer and has nowhere near the capacity.
There was a plan to re-open Park station for the Commonwealth Games but it was rejected due to cost. Perhaps we can contribute to a station on the line north of the stadium. I know it's a freight line but could it be used for low speed passenger traffic?
Also, we need buses that don't share Ashton New Road with pedestrians. Send them south down AT Way then into town along Ashton Old Road, And possibly some going north on AT Way and into town along Oldham Road or Rochdale Road.
But this would mean a lot of drivers required for irregular shifts.

 

[Manchester33]

I'm not sure how many other tube stations serve The Emirates but Arsenal station on the Piccadilly line has a train every 3 minutes and each holds about the same as two double trams. Our "wonderful" Metrolink is significantly newer and has nowhere near the capacity.
There was a plan to re-open Park station for the Commonwealth Games but it was rejected due to cost. Perhaps we can contribute to a station on the line north of the stadium. I know it's a freight line but could it be used for low speed passenger traffic?
Also, we need buses that don't share Ashton New Road with pedestrians. Send them south down AT Way then into town along Ashton Old Road, And possibly some going north on AT Way and into town along Oldham Road or Rochdale Road.
But this would mean a lot of drivers required for irregular shifts.

I'm sure I've seen that we're limited to the tram capacity by the length of platforms across the network. So the double trams are the largest we're ever going to get. The only solution is more frequent trams. That issue can't happen because of congestion in the city centre.

I do think the 'bee network' concept could help. I would genuinely use public transport if I could buy one cheap ticket that grants me access to any bus/tram/train (like what you get in London). Even better would be the German system that grants anyone with a match-ticket free public transport within that conurbation.

So we have examples of what we can do to improve the situation, but ultimately, Metrolink will never be the London Underground (because Government would never invest the same amount towards it).

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

I'm not sure how many other tube stations serve The Emirates but Arsenal station on the Piccadilly line has a train every 3 minutes and each holds about the same as two double trams. Our "wonderful" Metrolink is significantly newer and has nowhere near the capacity.
There was a plan to re-open Park station for the Commonwealth Games but it was rejected due to cost. Perhaps we can contribute to a station on the line north of the stadium. I know it's a freight line but could it be used for low speed passenger traffic?
Also, we need buses that don't share Ashton New Road with pedestrians. Send them south down AT Way then into town along Ashton Old Road, And possibly some going north on AT Way and into town along Oldham Road or Rochdale Road.
But this would mean a lot of drivers required for irregular shifts.

Comparing London with anywhere else in the country is pointless. Meridian Water station near Spurs was opened in 2019, got upgraded the same year, has planning permission for more platforms and will be on CrossRail 2 when that happens.

We don’t even get the stations swept. I’m hearing there’s a broken rail in the city centre which won’t get a new part for 12 months so services will need altering.

Tbf though, the city centre is walkable for most, I’d rather they improve the walking routes first into the city and up to Central Park. And try and hurry up the Sandhills stop. Maybe things like where the gasometer is being removed they can reopen the gates to allow pedestrians onto Bradford Road instead of the jam at Briscoe Lane.

 

[East Level 2]

Comparing London with anywhere else in the country is pointless. Meridian Water station near Spurs was opened in 2019, got upgraded the same year, has planning permission for more platforms and will be on CrossRail 2 when that happens.

We don’t even get the stations swept. I’m hearing there’s a broken rail in the city centre which won’t get a new part for 12 months so services will need altering.

Tbf though, the city centre is walkable for most, I’d rather they improve the walking routes first into the city and up to Central Park. And try and hurry up the Sandhills stop. Maybe things like where the gasometer is being removed they can reopen the gates to allow pedestrians onto Bradford Road instead of the jam at Briscoe Lane.

That would cut a couple of minutes off my walk back to the car!!