Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

Magicpole said:
Believe nothing until you have actual, verifiable evidence. Putting forward a narrative, for any side, any conflict, where your biases see you accept as fact, because you agree, with other stupid cunts like you.

It's a red flag of a mind, devioud of the ability to employ critical thinking, especially when you have a dog in the race.

DESIST.
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Odd name for a dog.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
Was that not what the citizens of Israel were doing on October 7th? Surely you can understand why the Israeli's are doing what they're doing and why?
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Of all the places to have a rave, why have it within earshot of Gaza?
 
tel aviv city said:
Do you actually believe what you’re writing —
that “Iran is not developing nuclear weapons”?
That’s not even the real question, because it’s clear to everyone that they are
More than that — they haven’t even tried to hide the fact that they’ve enriched enough for 10 bombs, and now the clock has started ticking in Israel.
Just a week ago, they still refused to meet with Trump.
But now the tables have turned, and they’re begging for negotiations.
An unhinged, sick 86-year-old leader, whose close advisors and inner circle have all died in the past five days, is now desperate to talk.
Only this time, it’s under a different set of rules — thanks to something that’s worked in the past week
(yes, we’re absorbing ballistic missile fire on civilians every few hours).
This insane regime is nearing its end, and the Iranian people are hoping for an American victory.
Are you really not up to date?
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Why are you allowed nuclear bombs and other countries not allowed to develop them
 
youngbob said:
Great movie.

And Jonathan Glazer has been very up front about what the film doubles as an allegory for.

www.theguardian.com

‘We refute our Jewishness and the Holocaust being hijacked’: Jonathan Glazer calls for end to Gaza attacks at Oscars

Accepting the award for best international film for The Zone of Interest, Glazer took to the stage to make an impassioned call for his Auschwitz drama to make people reassess the contemporary conflict in the middle east
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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robbieh said:
I saw an interview with this guy yesterday. Miko Peled. Jewish, born in Israel and fought in the IDF, his grandfather was a signatory of the Israeli Declaration of Independence while his father was a Major General in the Israeli army.
His niece was killed by a Palestinian suicide bomber.
Yet he doesn't blame Hamas or the PLO. He blames Israel.

This link will tell you why

mikopeled.com

Ethnic Cleansing of Invented People. By Miko Peled

Mostafa Tamimi from Nabi Saleh, Bahjat Zaalan and his son Ramdan from Gaza died on my fiftieth birthday and just a few days after Newt Gingrich declared them an invented people. They were murdered …
mikopeled.com mikopeled.com
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But if only they'd released hostages!

I hope those who think October 7th "happened in a vacuum" read that.

They won't.
 
tel aviv city said:
Do you actually believe what you’re writing —
that “Iran is not developing nuclear weapons”?
That’s not even the real question, because it’s clear to everyone that they are
More than that — they haven’t even tried to hide the fact that they’ve enriched enough for 10 bombs, and now the clock has started ticking in Israel.
Just a week ago, they still refused to meet with Trump.
But now the tables have turned, and they’re begging for negotiations.
An unhinged, sick 86-year-old leader, whose close advisors and inner circle have all died in the past five days, is now desperate to talk.
Only this time, it’s under a different set of rules — thanks to something that’s worked in the past week
(yes, we’re absorbing ballistic missile fire on civilians every few hours).
This insane regime is nearing its end, and the Iranian people are hoping for an American victory.
Are you really not up to date?
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Deary me. The 'Iran is close to developing a nuclear weapon' story comes round with all the inevitability of Halloween, Christmas or St Beneathus Day! There is no credible evidence for this and it's highly likely to be a false flag. However, I've got an idea where you get this nonsense from...
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tweety said:
Haha, there's a massive difference between a democracy in the Western world and a country run by religious nutters who will have you swinging from a crane if you speak out of line. Give your head a wobble.
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Legally, there isn't.
 
How did Israel get a nuclear bomb?
Did they develop it themselves or was it a gift from America? Though the latter wasn't allowed dmand didn't think they would be capable of the former.
 
robbieh said:
I saw an interview with this guy yesterday. Miko Peled. Jewish, born in Israel and fought in the IDF, his grandfather was a signatory of the Israeli Declaration of Independence while his father was a Major General in the Israeli army.
His niece was killed by a Palestinian suicide bomber.
Yet he doesn't blame Hamas or the PLO. He blames Israel.

This link will tell you why

mikopeled.com

Ethnic Cleansing of Invented People. By Miko Peled

Mostafa Tamimi from Nabi Saleh, Bahjat Zaalan and his son Ramdan from Gaza died on my fiftieth birthday and just a few days after Newt Gingrich declared them an invented people. They were murdered …
mikopeled.com mikopeled.com
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What changed his mind?
 
117 M34 said:
How did Israel get a nuclear bomb?
Did they develop it themselves or was it a gift from America? Though the latter wasn't allowed dmand didn't think they would be capable of the former.
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The last US President who demanded Israel’s nuclear weaponry be more transparent if not to dismantle it entirely, how did he end up?



Kennedy pressured the government of Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion to prevent a military nuclear program, particularly after stage-managed tours of the Dimona facility for U.S. government scientists in 1961 and 1962 raised suspicions within U.S. intelligence that Israel might be concealing its underlying nuclear aims. Kennedy’s long-run objective, documents show, was to broaden and institutionalize inspections of Dimona by the International Atomic Energy Agency.

On 30 May 1961, Kennedy met Ben-Gurion in Manhattan to discuss the bilateral relationship and Middle East issues. However, a central (and indeed the first) issue in their meeting was the Israeli nuclear program, about which President Kennedy was most concerned.

- wilsoncenter
Also https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-...bout-nuclear-weapons-potential-john-f-kennedy
 
cucumberman said:
The last US President who demanded Israel’s nuclear weaponry be more transparent if not to dismantle it entirely, how did he end up?



Kennedy pressured the government of Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion to prevent a military nuclear program, particularly after stage-managed tours of the Dimona facility for U.S. government scientists in 1961 and 1962 raised suspicions within U.S. intelligence that Israel might be concealing its underlying nuclear aims. Kennedy’s long-run objective, documents show, was to broaden and institutionalize inspections of Dimona by the International Atomic Energy Agency.

On 30 May 1961, Kennedy met Ben-Gurion in Manhattan to discuss the bilateral relationship and Middle East issues. However, a central (and indeed the first) issue in their meeting was the Israeli nuclear program, about which President Kennedy was most concerned.

- wilsoncenter
Also https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-...bout-nuclear-weapons-potential-john-f-kennedy
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Are you really suggesting that Isreal was behind the Kennedy assassination?

Fuck me this thread is an absolute cesspit.
 
Pelegrinni said:
During the same period of the Israeli/Arab 1948 war and the displacements that followed, there were similar displacements across the world. For example, we had the Pakistan and India mass displacement. Jews were displaced from many countries in the Middle East. Polish and German displacements also happened.
All these countries and peoples have moved on with their lives.

The Palestinians should make the best of the territory they have now in Gaza and the West Bank. Dreaming of going back to a land you left (willingly or forcefully) in 1948 is not going to happen. Anyone who pushes for this is not a friend of the Palestinians but is just using them to attack Israel.
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Belatedly...

1948 is only 77 years ago. Some Jews dreamt of going back to the land 1800 years after the Jews left. They did exactly what you're suggesting and had moved elsewhere. So presumably you think it was a mistake for the Jews to come back to this land.
 
langy said:
Why are you allowed nuclear bombs and other countries not allowed to develop them
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Because Israel didn't threaten to use, or plan to use nuclear bombs to exterminate Iran even when they had them.

Whereas "other countries", who are quite happy with the creation of religion based islamic states like Pakistan, Iran or Saudi, can't stand the existence of a Jewish state on 20,000 so km of desert land and have openly stated that they want to exterminate their country.
 
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