Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

Craig said:
Why wouldn’t you? Nobody views on Palestine are going to change because of one nut job yesterday. What happened was as horrific as it was inevitable.
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Murdering innocent people on British soil isn't on mate.
The tw@ got his just deserts.
Maybe he's just a random or maybe part of a bigger group.
One thing is certain though, he will have allied himself to the hamas/palestine cause.
 
Grassland Blue said:
Murdering innocent people on British soil isn't on mate.
The tw@ got his just deserts.
Maybe he's just a random or maybe part of a bigger group.
One thing is certain though, he will have allied himself to the hamas/palestine cause.
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I’ve not seen one person on here say that what happened yesterday was anything but horrific. It doesn’t really matter on the grand scheme of things what or who he supported. He was clearly a fucking lunatic. The only thing you could say but obviously we’ll never actually know is that if the genocide wasn’t on going in Gaza it may have been less likely that 2 poor innocent people were killed in Manchester yesterday.
 
Grassland Blue said:
Murdering innocent people on British soil isn't on mate.
The tw@ got his just deserts.
Maybe he's just a random or maybe part of a bigger group.
One thing is certain though, he will have allied himself to the hamas/palestine cause.
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Killing innocent people is not on, wherever it occurs in the world.
It is why most of the world condemns the actions of Israel - seizing land, destroying crops, occupying homes and shooting people in the head as they queue for food.
We have isolated attacks elsewhere - all unacceptable - but imagine facing that every single day.
 
ballbag said:
People who can't differentiate between showing support for Palestinians and not Hamas are weird as fuck tbh.
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People who spend their time defending the freaks and scum who were on that demonstration last night in Manchester - there’s something deeply wrong with them.
 
ballbag said:
People who can't differentiate between showing support for Palestinians and not Hamas are weird as fuck tbh.
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Why ? You create a terrorist by subjagating a race/religion. A 15yr old Palestinian boy is watching murder happen every day. Do you not think he is likely to become a Hamas 'terrorist'?
I have often used Nelson Mandela as the prime example on here but he faced nothing compared to what a Palestinian faces every day and has done for many many years.
Nelson Mandela was a convicted terrorist who, when the world woke up, became a world leader.
Hamas are a product of British colonialism and Israel murder. Anyone that cannot see that is, what's the phrase you used, 'weird as fuck'.
 
Blue Mist said:
How about the Home Secretary asking Israel to step back for a few days ?
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Talking about two people killed and three in serious condition in the Manchester Synagogue Attack, War Criminal Sir Keir Starmer said : "The fact that this has taken place on Yom Kippur, the holiest day in the Jewish calendar,makes it all the more horrific."
Surprisingly he made no reference to the slightly more horrific massacre by the IDF of another 50+ Palestinian civilians in Gaza on the same "holiest day in the Jewish calendar".Obviously it isn't that holy a day to the IDF !
 
Blue Mist said:
Why ? You create a terrorist by subjagating a race/religion. A 15yr old Palestinian boy is watching murder happen every day. Do you not think he is likely to become a Hamas 'terrorist'?
I have often used Nelson Mandela as the prime example on here but he faced nothing compared to what a Palestinian faces every day and has done for many many years.
Nelson Mandela was a convicted terrorist who, when the world woke up, became a world leader.
Hamas are a product of British colonialism and Israel murder. Anyone that cannot see that is, what's the phrase you used, 'weird as fuck'.
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Great post
 
Blue Mist said:
Why ? You create a terrorist by subjagating a race/religion. A 15yr old Palestinian boy is watching murder happen every day. Do you not think he is likely to become a Hamas 'terrorist'?
I have often used Nelson Mandela as the prime example on here but he faced nothing compared to what a Palestinian faces every day and has done for many many years.
Nelson Mandela was a convicted terrorist who, when the world woke up, became a world leader.
Hamas are a product of British colonialism and Israel murder. Anyone that cannot see that is, what's the phrase you used, 'weird as fuck'.
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A thought provoking post.
 
We've got Guardiola said:
Would you say the same thing about the people who did the 7/7 bombings, the London Bridge attacks, the Manchester Arena attack? They were obviously radicalised by ISIS/Al'Qaeda so how do we know this guy wasn't radicalised by some pro-Hamas sentiment? We just don't know but clearly something has been going on across Europe.

De-escalation is critical right now because unfortunately a small minority of us actually might act upon hatred and any calls for violence. It's the same on the far-right as well and it's just a matter of time until some nutter does something on that side.

I feel sorry for the security services and Police, it's a bloody nightmare out there. This is why I think people should think twice about attending protests, stop riling yourself up and just do something positive locally. It's good for you.
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I'm not sure it is good for me. If I do something "positive" that might feel "good for me" I'm acutely aware that while I'm doing that, I'm not doing anything positive to stop a genocide.

And the police could be investigating terrorism rather than arresting people for peacefully protesting against genocide.
 
Blue Elvis said:
Talking about two people killed and three in serious condition in the Manchester Synagogue Attack, War Criminal Sir Keir Starmer said : "The fact that this has taken place on Yom Kippur, the holiest day in the Jewish calendar,makes it all the more horrific."
Surprisingly he made no reference to the slightly more horrific massacre by the IDF of another 50+ Palestinian civilians in Gaza on the same "holiest day in the Jewish calendar".Obviously it isn't that holy a day to the IDF !
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Probably because the attack was in the UK and made on British citizens who he is elected to represent. Not everything has to be about Israel. Sometimes you have to tend to your own backyard.
 
Blue Mist said:
Why ? You create a terrorist by subjagating a race/religion. A 15yr old Palestinian boy is watching murder happen every day. Do you not think he is likely to become a Hamas 'terrorist'?
I have often used Nelson Mandela as the prime example on here but he faced nothing compared to what a Palestinian faces every day and has done for many many years.
Nelson Mandela was a convicted terrorist who, when the world woke up, became a world leader.
Hamas are a product of British colonialism and Israel murder. Anyone that cannot see that is, what's the phrase you used, 'weird as fuck'.
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Agree with that - and it echoes throughout history. M Dad playing Irish Rebel songs every day when I was growing up didn't have too much of an effect on myself, but even as a kid I could understand why people took to the cause. Not that I ever agreed with the methods.
 
Vic said:
I'm not sure it is good for me. If I do something "positive" that might feel "good for me" I'm acutely aware that while I'm doing that, I'm not doing anything positive to stop a genocide.

And the police could be investigating terrorism rather than arresting people for peacefully protesting against genocide.
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Improper allocation of resources is a fair point to make.
 
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