Middle East Conflict

[Irwell]

Israel is at war against enemies that would see them cease to exist.

If Hamas could have killed 30,000 Jews on the 7th October it would have done to the cheers of its supporters wherever they are.

It should give itself up to save the people it’s supposed to represent and protect but it won’t will it?

Palestine is at war against enemies that would see them cease to exist.

The Israel regime has already killed 30,000 Palestinians since 7th October to the cheers of its supporters wherever they are.

It should give itself up to save the people it's supposed to represent and protect but it won't will it?

 

[cucumberman]

Just before that murder, Netanyahu said: “ It is a mistake to do a deal with the enemy.” Note, Palestinians are the enemy FFS. Rabin’s policy is where it needs to go but I can’t see that happening any time soon. Note: some of the senior Israeli defence officers have criticised the current policy in Gaza.
Has Palestinian sentiment turned against the two state solution?

My Palestinian connections the past decades don’t even regard a two-state solution other than a pipe dream.

What they requested,since the 1990s, is the end of the air, sea and land blockade; of consistent electrical power source 24/7 instead of just 4-10 hours a day reliant on petrol generators; wifi internet of more than 4 hours a day that would be grand; being able to be approved for travel overseas without having to request for approval from Israel to fly or exit borders AND guarantee their approval to travel is not revoked only when they are on border passing; being able to spend and meditate in Al-Aqsa; a full month ot their ramadan without a single day of raid; their land deeds guaranteed for next of kin and not purchased, at a low price and with no information, to the right-of-return new Israel citizens.

The list and many others, is all they ask. A two-state solution is a miracle, even when the land of Palestine in the 1800s prospered and at peace with Christians, Druze, and the Arab Jews who are true Arab Sephardic and Arab Mizrahi.

 

[cucumberman]

If anything is as devastating and harrowing as severed limbs, malnourished to the bone, murdered during the Auschwitz, this is as close as it gets, and it is just the beginning.

 

[blueinsa]

Palestine is at war against enemies that would see them cease to exist.

The Israel regime has already killed 30,000 Palestinians since 7th October to the cheers of its supporters wherever they are.

It should give itself up to save the people it's supposed to represent and protect but it won't will it?

Nice try but a complete fail unfortunately.

Must do better.

 

[blueinsa]

My Palestinian connections the past decades don’t even regard a two-state solution other than a pipe dream.

What they requested,since the 1990s, is the end of the air, sea and land blockade; of consistent electrical power source 24/7 instead of just 4-10 hours a day reliant on petrol generators; wifi internet of more than 4 hours a day that would be grand; being able to be approved for travel overseas without having to request for approval from Israel to fly or exit borders AND guarantee their approval to travel is not revoked only when they are on border passing; being able to spend and meditate in Al-Aqsa; a full month ot their ramadan without a single day of raid; their land deeds guaranteed for next of kin and not purchased, at a low price and with no information, to the right-of-return new Israel citizens.

The list and many others, is all they ask. A two-state solution is a miracle, even when the land of Palestine in the 1800s prospered and at peace with Christians, Druze, and the Arab Jews who are true Arab Sephardic and Arab Mizrahi.

They should demand a full democracy with free and fair elections and the end of Hamas rule with a government willing to turn away from its Iranian paymasters And willing to live in peace with its neighbour.

Unfortunately Hamas and Iran have zero interest in allowing any of that to happen.

 

[cucumberman]

Saying it as it is. Spot on, from a highly influential figure Jeffrey Sachs. And a Jew no less.

 

[cucumberman]

They should demand a full democracy with free and fair elections and the end of Hamas rule with a government willing to turn away from its Iranian paymasters And willing to live in peace with its neighbour.

Unfortunately Hamas and Iran have zero interest in allowing any of that to happen.

They already had a full democracy 40 years ago, the PLO Fatah. They already signed agreements with Israel. Two-state solution was realistic, the Oslo Accord reinvigorated. The illegal settlers kicked out from their settlements. The occupied terrority to be liberated for Palestine. By Israel.

Then along came the zionists who financed Hamas that it is now. Financed by the zionists high up the ladder, the same zionists that the Israel Supreme Court has been spending the last few decades in trialling them for corruption, bribery, fraud, international law crimes, reforming by coercion the Israel law for a more draconian zionist vision.

If you’re not privy, fly to Israel and visit the zionist museums where their mission is idolized. Visit Lehi Museum, Palmach Museum, Irgun Museum. Read the evidence. If you don’t read Hebrew, Yiddish or Ashkenazi, learn first.

 

[Don Karleone]

He isn't wrong

 

[BayernMan]

I’m shocked /s

 

[BayernMan]