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Is the Gaza Health Ministry trustworthy?

Its numbers have historically been considered reliable by the United Nations, the World Health Organization, and Human Rights Watch. In relation to the Israel-Hamas war, two papers published in The Lancet journal did not find evidence of inflation or fabrication.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/gaza-un-experts-condemn-killing-and-silencing-journalists

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)02713-7/fulltext

But no, I'll take the word of some intermittent poster on Bluemoon, a "journalist" nobody's heard of and a website called 'honest reporting' instead.

BTW, why doesn't the fine, upstanding, moral, democracy of Israel allow international journalists into Gaza?

No idea about journalists being allowed into Gaza. I knew you and the many others of terrorist supppoters wouldn't like any evidence presented so far as you never will. Israel is held to standards no other country is and everything coming out in support of terrorism is accepted as gospel whereas anything Israel says is fake. So for a little bit of balance:

Hamas-Run Gaza Health Ministry Admits to Flaws in Casualty Data

The Hamas-run Gaza Ministry of Health said on April 6 that it had “incomplete data” for 11,371 of the 33,091 Palestinian fatalities it claims to have documented. In a statistical...

www.fdd.org

Gaza Fatality Data Has Become Completely Unreliable

Given the discrepancies in official Palestinian counts and their growing reliance on questionable data from media reports, the credibility gaps revealed by a previous Washington Institute study have become yawning chasms.

www.washingtoninstitute.org

How the Gaza Ministry of Health Fakes Casualty Numbers

The evidence is in their own poorly fabricated figures

www.tabletmag.com

Rahim Mohamed: Hamas death numbers can't be trusted — here's more evidence they are inflated

Hamas data flies in the face of basic number theory

nationalpost.com

Death toll in Gaza hospital blast greatly exaggerated - independent intel

Local Hamas-run Gazan sources allege that 471 people were killed at the hospital; foreign independent intelligence sources claimed instead that the number was closer to 10-50.

www.jpost.com

Mortality in Gaza: lies and statistics | TheArticle

The UN, UNWRA, WHO, numerous NGOs, senior British and American politicians and all the British mainstream news networ...

www.thearticle.com

And before you go on about every article being fake, not true, not a source you have heard of may I remind you of this:

Anyway I am fed up with dealing with bullies and narrow minded people so I won't be on this thread for a while as my mental health comes first, rather than trying to educate people who don't want to be. You and your pals can carry on believing what you want to, it's fine but I will remember which side of history you all chose. That of the sexist, homophobic, rapist, murdering, transphobic, oppressive likes of Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis and Iranian regime.

 

[BayernMan]

 

[BayernMan]

Most “moral” army….

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

No idea about journalists being allowed into Gaza. I knew you and the many others of terrorist supppoters wouldn't like any evidence presented so far as you never will. Israel is held to standards no other country is and everything coming out in support of terrorism is accepted as gospel whereas anything Israel says is fake. So for a little bit of balance:

Hamas-Run Gaza Health Ministry Admits to Flaws in Casualty Data

The Hamas-run Gaza Ministry of Health said on April 6 that it had “incomplete data” for 11,371 of the 33,091 Palestinian fatalities it claims to have documented. In a statistical...

www.fdd.org

Gaza Fatality Data Has Become Completely Unreliable

Given the discrepancies in official Palestinian counts and their growing reliance on questionable data from media reports, the credibility gaps revealed by a previous Washington Institute study have become yawning chasms.

www.washingtoninstitute.org

How the Gaza Ministry of Health Fakes Casualty Numbers

The evidence is in their own poorly fabricated figures

www.tabletmag.com

Rahim Mohamed: Hamas death numbers can't be trusted — here's more evidence they are inflated

Hamas data flies in the face of basic number theory

nationalpost.com

Death toll in Gaza hospital blast greatly exaggerated - independent intel

Local Hamas-run Gazan sources allege that 471 people were killed at the hospital; foreign independent intelligence sources claimed instead that the number was closer to 10-50.

www.jpost.com

Mortality in Gaza: lies and statistics | TheArticle

The UN, UNWRA, WHO, numerous NGOs, senior British and American politicians and all the British mainstream news networ...

www.thearticle.com

And before you go on about every article being fake, not true, not a source you have heard of may I remind you of this:

Anyway I am fed up with dealing with bullies and narrow minded people so I won't be on this thread for a while as my mental health comes first, rather than trying to educate people who don't want to be. You and your pals can carry on believing what you want to, it's fine but I will remember which side of history you all chose. That of the sexist, homophobic, rapist, murdering, transphobic, oppressive likes of Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis and Iranian regime.

Get well soon. X

If you come back with a more tolerant and less zealous tone you'll be worth debating.

 

[Luddite_Blue]

No idea about journalists being allowed into Gaza. I knew you and the many others of terrorist supppoters wouldn't like any evidence presented so far as you never will. Israel is held to standards no other country is and everything coming out in support of terrorism is accepted as gospel whereas anything Israel says is fake. So for a little bit of balance:

Hamas-Run Gaza Health Ministry Admits to Flaws in Casualty Data

The Hamas-run Gaza Ministry of Health said on April 6 that it had “incomplete data” for 11,371 of the 33,091 Palestinian fatalities it claims to have documented. In a statistical...

www.fdd.org

Gaza Fatality Data Has Become Completely Unreliable

Given the discrepancies in official Palestinian counts and their growing reliance on questionable data from media reports, the credibility gaps revealed by a previous Washington Institute study have become yawning chasms.

www.washingtoninstitute.org

How the Gaza Ministry of Health Fakes Casualty Numbers

The evidence is in their own poorly fabricated figures

www.tabletmag.com

Rahim Mohamed: Hamas death numbers can't be trusted — here's more evidence they are inflated

Hamas data flies in the face of basic number theory

nationalpost.com

Death toll in Gaza hospital blast greatly exaggerated - independent intel

Local Hamas-run Gazan sources allege that 471 people were killed at the hospital; foreign independent intelligence sources claimed instead that the number was closer to 10-50.

www.jpost.com

Mortality in Gaza: lies and statistics | TheArticle

The UN, UNWRA, WHO, numerous NGOs, senior British and American politicians and all the British mainstream news networ...

www.thearticle.com

And before you go on about every article being fake, not true, not a source you have heard of may I remind you of this:

Anyway I am fed up with dealing with bullies and narrow minded people so I won't be on this thread for a while as my mental health comes first, rather than trying to educate people who don't want to be. You and your pals can carry on believing what you want to, it's fine but I will remember which side of history you all chose. That of the sexist, homophobic, rapist, murdering, transphobic, oppressive likes of Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis and Iranian regime.

I think you protest far too much.

Even the US defense secretary said in February that 25,000 women and children had been killed by Israel in Gaza and this is where the USA is fully complicit and as far from an honest broker in this slaughter as it's possible to be.

 

[BayernMan]

Most “moral” army….

Nothing to see here…

 

[robbieh]

Get well soon. X

If you come back with a more tolerant and less zealous tone you'll be worth debating.

I'm sorry but he sounds one arrogant sob, educating us, remembering what side of history we're on. And if his failed attempt to educate us has caused problems for him then he's quite right to quit the thread. Maybe he can use the time to educate himself.

 

[halfcenturyup]

I'm sorry but he sounds one arrogant sob, educating us, remembering what side of history we're on. And if his failed attempt to educate us has caused problems for him then he's quite right to quit the thread. Maybe he can use the time to educate himself.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

 

[Don Karleone]

Good

 

[SebastianBlue]

It always amazes me how quiet the Netanyahu and far-right Israeli government backers are when the illegal, immoral, unethical, and—at times—horrific declarations and actions of that far-right government are highlighted in the thread.

Almost as if they agree with those illegal, immoral, unethical, and—at times—horrific declarations and actions.