Middle East Conflict

[Dax777]

The evidence convinced me it was a Hamas supported misfired rocket.

The lack of a crater, the burning fire after contact, the Ariel surveillance, the lack of building structural damage, the wiretapped Hamas phone discussion, and the visual and infrared evidence all point in one direction.

Sure, could this all have been faked? Possibly. But unlikely.


I'm going to conclude the obvious. Hamas error.

 

[BayernMan]

 

[BayernMan]

 

[CTID1988]

The evidence convinced me it was a Hamas supported misfired rocket.

The lack of a crater, the burning fire after contact, the Ariel surveillance, the lack of building structural damage, the wiretapped Hamas phone discussion, and the visual and infrared evidence all point in one direction.

Sure, could this all have been faked? Possibly. But unlikely.


I'm going to conclude the obvious. Hamas error.

Ive my doubts about Israeli intelligence seeing as they had absolutely no idea of the incoming Hamas attack 11 days ago. Personally, I'm also swaying towards a stray Hamas rocket also but I don't think we will ever know for sure until independent evidence comes to light

 

[CTID1988]

This thread in a nutshell.

I don't really understand the obsession with beheaded babies (not you, just in general). There have been images of babies that have been burnt, is that not enough? The fact that innocent people on either side are being caught up in all this is absolutely terrible, whether it be bombs, knives or fire it all results in the same thing. Dead people who should be alive

 

[splinter]

He's alright big Joe..he wouldn't look out of place in wetherspoons

 

[CTID1988]

Israel have just said absolutely no aid will be going into Gaza without the return of the hostages.

 

[kaz7]

Israel have just said absolutely no aid will be going into Gaza without the return of the hostages.

So biden has a different account of their meeting , israel taking without treating the people of gazza with respect , they cant do that ffs

 

[Palerider]

I don't really understand the obsession with beheaded babies (not you, just in general). There have been images of babies that have been burnt, is that not enough? The fact that innocent people on either side are being caught up in all this is absolutely terrible, whether it be bombs, knives or fire it all results in the same thing. Dead people who should be alive

I think the difference is the enjoyment.

 

[trueblue1972]

Israel have just said absolutely no aid will be going into Gaza without the return of the hostages.

They now say Aid will be alowd in as long as its only food water medicine

 

[Palerider]

Brilliant speech from Biden. He really can rise to the occasion at times.

This mess is not an easy task for any world leader. Israel is, by necessity I think, right wing. Hamas are to the right of Hitler and the Ku Klux Klan put together. Why the left support them I will never know (unless it's because they are the poor (financially) relation in this).

 

[BayernMan]

This mess is not an easy task for any world leader. Israel is, by necessity I think, right wing. Hamas are to the right of Hitler and the Ku Klux Klan put together. Why the left support them I will never know (unless it's because they are the poor (financially) relation in this).

This is primary school level analysis.

 

[Palerider]

This is primary school level analysis.

A left winger I presume?

 

[CTID1988]

This mess is not an easy task for any world leader. Israel is, by necessity I think, right wing. Hamas are to the right of Hitler and the Ku Klux Klan put together. Why the left support them I will never know (unless it's because they are the poor (financially) relation in this).

There is a big difference between supporting innocent Palestinian people and supporting Hamas

 

[BayernMan]

A left winger I presume?

No, I just not a fan of Marvel movies. Especially not enough to shape my POV from them.

 

[blueinsa]

They now say Aid will be alowd in as long as its only food water medicine

Which should never have been stopped in the first place imo.

Its a positive and right move by Israel.

 

[blueinsa]

There is a big difference between supporting innocent Palestinian people and supporting Hamas

Absolutely but for a minority and we have seen them on our own streets of late, the difference is either tiny or non existent.

 

[MouldensChippy]

The point of the Iran agreement which included all the major powers and the EU countries was to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons and to normalise relations.

Trump scrapped the deal out of spite and pushed Iran back out into the cold. Netanyahu urged Trump to scrap the deal. You reckon we should ask him how that worked out for Israel?

You are assuming that the Iranians were being honourable and abiding by the agreement.

I wonder why Netanyahu would urge the Americans to scrap the deal, might it be something to do with Iran's wish to wipe all Jews, and Israel from the face of the earth ?

You know, the same reason that they fund the terrorist groups !

 

[BayernMan]

 

[CTID1988]

Absolutely but for an minority and we have seen them on our own streets of late, the difference is either tiny or non existent.

Oh I definitely agree on that. There was a video of a transgender woman protesting and supporting Hamas, would love to see her go over there and proclaim her support to their faces. See how that ends up