Middle East Conflict

[mexico1970]

By doing what? Get involved how?

If we DO get involved we will upset another group of radicals who will be hell bent on killing even more civilians.

Talking about it is all we could genuinely really do and with that talks comes no hope at all.

We could airlift every Israeli Jew out of Israel and into other parts of the world and that STILL wouldn't be enough, the human condition is the cause and it isn't going away.

 

[Metal Biker]

It depends what do you describe as terrorism, when the IRA were busy killing civilians they were lorded as freedom fighters in the US, are the resistance groups in Myanmar terrorists, were the French Resistance in WW2 terrorists?

It's a loaded word. in used to describe people who are fighting for a cause we don't like rather than one we do like, as always one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter it all depends which side of the fence you are sitting

I always like to sit on the fence, and condemn the actions of both parties but also realising that it does not come from nothing

It depends on whether or not the cause is a noble one that adheres to human rights and values.

The 'extermination of every Jew is the world' isn't one of them, which Hamas preaches.

 

[Gray]

Why are Hamas or PIJ launching rockets from a cemetery, surely they should be condemned for that alone?

 

[SWP's back]

Watch: Pro-Palestinian Protesters Stage ‘Insurrection’ in U.S. Capitol.​

source is Breitbart.

WATCH: Pro-Palestinian Protesters Stage 'Insurrection' in U.S. Capitol Office Building

Pro-Palestinian protesters, who want a ceasefire that would benefit the Hamas terror organization in Gaza, protested in the Cannon Rotunda.

www.breitbart.com

Anti-Israel Protesters Descend on Downing Street After Media Blamed Israel for Explosion at Gaza Hospital​

Anti-Israel Protesters Descend on Downing Street After Gaza Hospital Blast

Activists protested outside Downing Street in London after an explosion at a Gaza hospital, which the legacy media initially blamed on Israel.

www.breitbart.com

Fucking Breitbart

 

[Bluemoon_420]

Bravo Matt Carthy:

 

[SWP's back]

Even though it’s on the record that Sunak will be pressing for humanitarian aid in to Gaza. Why make shit up?

Because he’s about as middle ground as Stalin.

 

[Bluemoon_420]

Al-Jazeera refuting the IDF claims on the Al-Ahli hospital bombing:

 

[BringBackSwales]

The IRA weren’t launching rockets across the Irish Sea into London so it’s a pretty childish comparison.

Even as someone who’s been constantly outspoken against the IDF’s use of force and willingness to accept civilian casualties, you really can’t compare the IRA and Hamas.

No but then again people in Belfast were not being deprived of food, water, electricity and basic human dignity

 

[SWP's back]

Al-Jazeera refuting the IDF claims on the Al-Ahli hospital bombing:

Are you just posting every post from Twitter that supports your view? You know this thread could get very fucking boring if we all did this?

If you understand that then let’s none of us do? If you insist on continuing then I promise I’ll trump you by just shit posting pro-Israeli shite in the same way that you’re doing anti-Israeli shite.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Even though it’s on the record that Sunak will be pressing for humanitarian aid in to Gaza. Why make shit up?

He said the uk would provide TEN MILLION POUNDS IN AID TO PALESTINIANS. Derisory and about as much as one of Mrs Sunaks tax residency dodges

 

[Metal Biker]

He said the uk would provide TEN MILLION POUNDS IN AID TO PALESTINIANS. Derisory and about as much as one of Mrs Sunaks tax residency dodges

How much should we have donated? £20m? £50m? £100m? £1billion? Ten?

You want to turn your nose up at £10m in civilian aid then fine.

 

[mexico1970]

How much should we have donated? £20m? £50m? £100m? £1billion? Ten?

You want to turn your nose up at £10m in civilian aid then fine.

When every other country chips in then it will amount to a goodly amount.

The only foreseeable problem is making sure Hamas don't get their hands on any of it and it goes to the civilians.

 

[goalmole]

You do realize that what is going on in Gaza now will create hatred on a huge scale against Israel and will result in the deaths of thousands Jews. Does Netanyahu care?

No he doesn't.
It could be argued that the intransigence of the Israeli government in refusing to settle this problem by giving the Palestinians a state of their own that they find acceptable is responsible for every Jewish death that occurs in this long running dispute.

 

[SWP's back]

How much should we have donated? £20m? £50m? £100m? £1billion? Ten?

You want to turn your nose up at £10m in civilian aid then fine.

Whatever the amount was, someone would take issue.

 

[SWP's back]

No he doesn't.
It could be argued that the intransigence of the Israeli government in refusing to settle this problem by giving the Palestinians a state of their own that they find acceptable is responsible for every Jewish death that occurs in this long running dispute.

Sure it could be argued but it would be wrong. Hamas don’t want a two state solution, they literally state their reason to be is the total eradication of the Jewish state.

 

[Roachy]

He said the uk would provide TEN MILLION POUNDS IN AID TO PALESTINIANS. Derisory and about as much as one of Mrs Sunaks tax residency dodges

He wasn't obliged to give anything to be fair, but yes a nice gesture from the UK taxpayer.

 

[The blue phantom]

He said the uk would provide TEN MILLION POUNDS IN AID TO PALESTINIANS. Derisory and about as much as one of Mrs Sunaks tax residency dodges

It would be nice for him to say stop the siege and let the aid in. You can donate all you fuckin want but if it can't get in what's the point?

 

[Bradley82]

I gave one last week and it was pooh-pooh'd by the Israeliphobes. We could always go down the Hamas route; rape and kill every single Israeli civilian, bomb every Israeli military institution, burn every synagogue to cinders, push the Israelis out of the region and rename the whole territory Palestine. Because thats what they mean.

I'd like to hear more from those who hate Israel to give their solutions about how Israel should respond.

By using precision munitions on verified Hamas targets and in accordance with international law. I served in Northern Ireland and hated PIRA but clearly understood that attacks on the security forces there or attacks in mainland Britain would not result in the indescriminate bombing of the Creggan or Ballymurphy.

 

[domalino]

How much should we have donated? £20m? £50m? £100m? £1billion? Ten?

You want to turn your nose up at £10m in civilian aid then fine.

Well we've given about £400m of humanitarian aid to Ukraine not including the £3Bn military aid.

Our total foreign aid budget is £7Bn, of which Palestinians get £30m p/a.

So giving £10m to Gaza does seem insultingly little. We'll make a lot more than that selling arms to Israel this year.

 

[The blue phantom]

By using precision munitions on verified Hamas targets and in accordance with international law. I served in Northern Ireland and hated PIRA but clearly understood that attacks on the security forces there or attacks in mainland Britain would not result in the indescriminate bombing of the Creggan or Ballymurphy.

The IDF have already come out and stated that Damage over Accuracy is their policy.