Match of the Day - 2019/20

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Is this handball rule just s PL thing or everywhere?

I think it rears its ugly head wherever we happen to be playing!

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Having played a lot of football in my youth, not to any noticeable level, of course, I would have thought that the natural position of your arms whilst tear arsing about a football field, or facing off an attacker just before he skins you, would be to have your arms slightly OUT from your side, and not to have them tucked in behind your back.

Aye. They are needed for balance.

 

[BlueTG]

Peter walton(I know..) was saying that if the arm is by the side making a perfect silhouette it's not a pen.
If the arm makes a movement away from the body in an unnatural action and the ball bits it's a pen.
What laporte did was neither.
Unless VAR want players to challenge for the ball in the style of a walking penguin then there will be countless decisions every game.

When questioned on it though, he couldn’t justify this ‘silhouette’ bollocks in various circumstances. A no mark, wank referee who has been given some weird sense of importance thanks to this cock and balls fest introduced this season.

 

[Metalartin]

Only criticism is they didn't do a good enough job of highlighting how dominant City were. The highlights made it look fairly even and where was Bernardo's skills? People enjoy seeing this stuff.

 

[Gordyola]

Is this handball rule just s PL thing or everywhere?

Laws are universal decided by IFAB

However
“The referees’ chief Mike Riley has revealed that video assistant referees will not impose the tough line on handballs in the Premier League next season that has led to numerous controversial penalties in the Women’s World Cup and Champions League.

Riley, the managing director of the Professional Game Match Officials Ltd (PGMOL), said that many of the penalties awarded for handball in the Women’s World Cup and Champions League — including those awarded against Tottenham Hotspur’s Danny Rose and Moussa Sissoko in the Champions League quarter-final and final respectively — would not be given in the Premier League.

The former top-flight referee said that officials will be told to minimise the disruptive impact of VARs by having “a high line of intervention”. It comes after fears that overuse of video reviews is ruining the flow and spectacle of the game. Despite the handball law, which came into force across all competitions last month, Riley thinks that there is flexibility for English football to interpret it in a way that will not cause a big increase in the number of spot-kick

It was revealed last month that VARs in the Premier League will not rule on whether a goalkeeper moves off the line at penalties, leaving that decision to on-field officials, and that referees will be told not to consult pitchside monitors to minimise delays”

The addendum being Unless it’s Manchester City then do whatever is necessary

 

[GornikDaze]

Can't moan at that analysis.

Lineker, Shearer and Murphy all in agreement that the handball rule is a farce and the ref/VAR got the Rodri penalty wrong.

Murphy going one further saying VAR is sucking the enjoyment out of football.

Murphy is an expert when it comes to sucking the enjoyment out of football

 

[davyhulme blue]

Murphy is an expert when it comes to sucking the enjoyment out of football

Can’t stand him but he is right

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Laws are universal decided by IFAB

However
“The referees’ chief Mike Riley has revealed that video assistant referees will not impose the tough line on handballs in the Premier League next season that has led to numerous controversial penalties in the Women’s World Cup and Champions League.

Riley, the managing director of the Professional Game Match Officials Ltd (PGMOL), said that many of the penalties awarded for handball in the Women’s World Cup and Champions League — including those awarded against Tottenham Hotspur’s Danny Rose and Moussa Sissoko in the Champions League quarter-final and final respectively — would not be given in the Premier League.

The problem with that is that we now have different standards for attackers and defenders in handball. For defenders, they're still basing it on intent and unnatural hand positions, and for attackers it's any slight accidental brush of the hand even when it really doesn't affect the outcome. At the very least, it means VAR is being used to rule out goals more than it's being used to allow them, which is the opposite of what you go to football to see.

And then different competitions seem to have different interpretations, so in the Champions League, we concede a penalty after it's blasted at Otamendi when he's not even looking, but Spurs' goal isn't disallowed after touching the players' arm. Personally, I think both were accidental, so no penalty and the goal stands. But under the new rules, the goal should have been disallowed, and the penalty would be based (I believe) on whether it prevented a goal, which is very difficult to judge when a shot is blasted from outside the area into a crowd of players.

 

[Blue Til Death]

What happened on Saturday was corruption at work, nothing less, we can print the handball and penalty laws on here until we are Blue in the face but ultimately we were robbed of 2 points.... This will be the norm all season... Hopefully City can bang in so many goals it won't stop us winning the league, shouldn't be this way though... The faceless Individuals behind this sick joke called VAR have been given carte blanche to manipulate results as they see fit .....!

 

[bluealf]

Only criticism is they didn't do a good enough job of highlighting how dominant City were. The highlights made it look fairly even and where was Bernardo's skills? People enjoy seeing this stuff.

If they showed that then they would have had to show Oliver some how contriving to award Spurs a freekick for Bernardo headbutting Rose's forearm smash and leading to more people seeing the bias we suffer on a match by match basis.

Seriously though how can they not show that footwork?