Mourhino is on his way to City.....

[Barcon]

Why are we talking about Moyes, do people really believe he should be given a shot? Don't get me wrong, Moyes may have been a vision a few years back but he hasn't got any of the pedigree that we are looking for now.

Talk Mourinho, Guardiola or Klopp all you want, but Moyes? Please.

No mate, there is one person talking about Moyes, probably from a dairy farm in Idaho.

 

[Blueband Brother]

The style of football he plays only reflect the resources and kind of players at his disposal.

This is rubbish, how do you explain Swansea, Wigan, and Southampton who play nicer football on smaller budgets? Everton play the way they do because that is Moyes' footballing ideology, he's one of the old school British types who puts together hard working physical teams who can challenge anyone but will win no awards for entertainment value.

Mancini won trophies in Italy with two teams who had less money to spend than Everton and got one into the Champions League group stage and UEFA Cup semis.

Swansea and wigan are playing that way because they have prioritized style of football over substance and success. Ok. swansea are doing very well at the moment but i doubt it is sustainable. I guess wigans style of football is the reason why the escape relegation by the skin of thier teeth every season. If the play the honest and hard way, they probably would have been relegated by now.

The bottom line is that to acheive real success, you cannot prioritize style of football over achieving results and that is something rodgers in liverpool has to understand as well. They can acquire the players to play the so called good football but ultimately those players may be defecient in certain qualities required to win games and win trophies.

Barcelona is one of the greatest teams of all time because they have some of the finest players europe has ever seen and a very good academy. It is foolishness for another club to think they can emulate barcelona by consiously attempting to play in a particular way rather than playing to your strengths and maximizing your potential.

We are always going to play good football because we have technically excellent players and thats not going to change if moyes is manager.

 

[LoveCity]

Swansea and wigan are playing that way because they have prioritized style of football over substance and success.

Laudrup has done in one season what Moyes has failed to do in 12 with Everton - win a trophy, and while playing lovely football. That's success while playing good football. It might not be sustainable for Swansea if Laudrup changes clubs, that is one thing Everton have had on most other 'on a budget' clubs, continuity with the manager. But it doesn't mean a club that plays nice football on a budget can't be a top half team for years to come.

You're basically saying the only way to loiter in the top half long-term if you aren't one of the elite teams is to play limited grafter football. Nonsense.

Moyes has been a good manager in his Everton comfort zone but has not convinced me (and others by the look of it) he is qualified to take over if Mancini leaves. People are setting their standards far too low. Mourinho, Klopp, Ancelotti, Guardiola - this the level of manager we should be aiming for at this stage of the 'project', not taking a risk on one who could set us back 2 or 3 years. Moyes hasn't even proven himself to be a 'level 2' manager below that lot yet either, like a Diego Simeone has for example.

 

[hgblue]

Jose Mourinho managerial honours:
Porto (2002–2004)
Primeira Liga (2): 2002–03, 2003–04
Taça de Portugal (1): 2002–03
Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira (1): 2003
UEFA Champions League (1): 2003–04
UEFA Cup (1): 2002–03
Chelsea (2004–2007)
Premier League (2): 2004–05, 2005–06
FA Cup (1): 2006–07
Football League Cup (2): 2004–05, 2006–07
FA Community Shield (1): 2005
Internazionale (2008–2010)
Serie A (2): 2008–09, 2009–10
Coppa Italia (1): 2009–10
Supercoppa Italiana (1): 2008
UEFA Champions League (1): 2009–10
Real Madrid (2010–present)
La Liga (1): 2011–12
Copa del Rey (1): 2010–11
Supercopa de España (1): 2012
David Moyes managerial honours:
Bugger all.
It's a tough call.

 

[Thenumber1blue]

Jose Mourinho managerial honours:
Porto (2002–2004)
Primeira Liga (2): 2002–03, 2003–04
Taça de Portugal (1): 2002–03
Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira (1): 2003
UEFA Champions League (1): 2003–04
UEFA Cup (1): 2002–03
Chelsea (2004–2007)
Premier League (2): 2004–05, 2005–06
FA Cup (1): 2006–07
Football League Cup (2): 2004–05, 2006–07
FA Community Shield (1): 2005
Internazionale (2008–2010)
Serie A (2): 2008–09, 2009–10
Coppa Italia (1): 2009–10
Supercoppa Italiana (1): 2008
UEFA Champions League (1): 2009–10
Real Madrid (2010–present)
La Liga (1): 2011–12
Copa del Rey (1): 2010–11
Supercopa de España (1): 2012
David Moyes managerial honours:
Bugger all.
It's a tough call.

Quality,it's like choosing between waynetta slob and Georgia Salpa

 

[Blueband Brother]

You're basically saying the only way to loiter in the top half long-term if you aren't one of the elite teams is to play limited grafter football. Nonsense.

The only way a club can achieve real success is to have a stable envioronment, players that are talented, deligent and willing to give 100& in every game, with a playing style that is compactible to the players available. Everton has ticked all the above boxes and although they have not had a fortunate and successful run in a cup competition like portsmouth and swansea, they are are stable club that is feared and respected in the league and is always consistently challenging the top 6. They are also very organized, spirited and discipined team.

 

[The Future's Blue]

Why are we talking about Moyes, do people really believe he should be given a shot? Don't get me wrong, Moyes may have been a vision a few years back but he hasn't got any of the pedigree that we are looking for now.

Talk Mourinho, Guardiola or Klopp all you want, but Moyes? Please.

No mate, there is one person talking about Moyes, probably from a dairy farm in Idaho.

Absolutely scares the pants off me. Moyes, if he makes it big, will be at the Swamp with Pigs Trotters upstairs calling the shots. He'll be doing it on a shoestring again with the team they've got, not that you could really call that team as 'On a Shoestring'.

The Scum are in a rush to pay off that debt, we ensured they sped the process up.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

No please NOT Moyes. He currently manages the side that i abhor watching. Most of their football (if thats what you call it) is turgid at best. Give it that have 3 decent players in Fellaini,Baines and Piennar.

 

[LoveCity]

You're basically saying the only way to loiter in the top half long-term if you aren't one of the elite teams is to play limited grafter football. Nonsense.

The only way a club can achieve real success is to have a stable envioronment, players that are talented, deligent and willing to give 100& in every game, with a playing style that is compactible to the players available. Everton has ticked all the above boxes and although they have not had a fortunate and successful run in a cup competition like portsmouth and swansea, they are are stable club that is feared and respected in the league and is always consistently challenging the top 6. They are also very organized, spirited and discipined team.

They're stable because they've kept their manager and given him time, it has nothing to do with Moyes' generic style of football. Swansea players are working their arse off for Laudrup too, again while playing a fantastic brand of football that is probably the most entertaining in the league right now. And with it has come a trophy and European football next season.

Keep Laudrup for 10 years and Swansea would probably be perennial top halfers playing lovely football, getting the occasional European spot, and by default winning more trophies than Moyes' Everton have (1 vs. 0 already). 100% workrate doesn't mean you have to have a bunch of grafters like Osman, Neville, and Hibbert with an ounce of flair thrown in. Swansea players give 100% and instead of out-muscling opponents, they choke teams with their pressing instead of hacking at opponents' ankles.

Moyes would probably turn us into a 2 winger, 3 midfielder, 1 striker team and we'd be very generic, not playing a great brand of football that appeals to the world, which the men in charge will probably want. Probably a poor man's rags at best. We need a tactical mastermind if we're to succeed in Europe too, Moyes is not a tactical mastermind. Go and watch a team like Bayern, Real at their best, Dortmund at their best, they play on a level that no Moyes team will ever be capable of and not just due to the players but because of the man in charge. If Moyes wants to prove himself a top manager, let him follow through on his comment about managing in the Bundesliga and see how he does there first.

Some City fans are ready to settle for second best or not even that (Moyes) it seems.

 

[The Future's Blue]

You're basically saying the only way to loiter in the top half long-term if you aren't one of the elite teams is to play limited grafter football. Nonsense.

The only way a club can achieve real success is to have a stable envioronment, players that are talented, deligent and willing to give 100& in every game, with a playing style that is compactible to the players available. Everton has ticked all the above boxes and although they have not had a fortunate and successful run in a cup competition like portsmouth and swansea, they are are stable club that is feared and respected in the league and is always consistently challenging the top 6. They are also very organized, spirited and discipined team.

They're stable because they've kept their manager and given him time, it has nothing to do with Moyes' generic style of football. Swansea players are working their arse off for Laudrup too, again while playing a fantastic brand of football that is probably the most entertaining in the league right now. And with it has come a trophy and European football next season.

Keep Laudrup for 10 years and Swansea would probably be perennial top halfers playing lovely football, getting the occasional European spot, and by default winning more trophies than Moyes' Everton have (1 vs. 0 already). 100% workrate doesn't mean you have to have a bunch of grafters like Osman, Neville, and Hibbert with an ounce of flair thrown in. Swansea players give 100% and instead of out-muscling opponents, they choke teams with their pressing instead of hacking at opponents' ankles.

Moyes would probably turn us into a 2 winger, 3 midfielder, 1 striker team and we'd be very generic, not playing a great brand of football that appeals to the world, which the men in charge will probably want. Probably a poor man's rags at best. We need a tactical mastermind if we're to succeed in Europe too, Moyes is not a tactical mastermind. Go and watch a team like Bayern, Real at their best, Dortmund at their best, they play on a level that no Moyes team will ever be capable of and not just due to the players but because of the man in charge. If Moyes wants to prove himself a top manager, let him follow through on his comment about managing in the Bundesliga and see how he does there first.

Some City fans are ready to settle for second best or not even that (Moyes) it seems.

Are you saying that if we keep our manager for a long time we are almost certainly guaranteed domestic success but it's still a gamble in Europe?