Mr Bates vs the Post Office

blueste41 said:
The police can now only investigate what politicians say they can? When did that change in the law happen?
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The cops allegedly started an investigation in 2020. I know we've had Covid but 4 years is rather a long time to do fuck all. I assume that they have been told to leave it. Why else has nothing been done in 4 years.
This latest bombshell puts the Government at the heart of a conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. I don't want MP's spending a fortune on an inquiry that stops every 3 months for a break. I want offices raided, files, documents, data sticks and anything else seized and I want people arrested.
And just to repeat. Yes, I believe the police are not taking action because they have been told not to.
For reference, I don't believe that Gareth Williams who worked for MI6 stepped fully into a Holdall, put it into a bath, padlocked it and then accidentally died. The coroner said he was unlawfully killed the police said it was an accident. I wonder who told them to say that.
 
Blue Mist said:
The cops allegedly started an investigation in 2020. I know we've had Covid but 4 years is rather a long time to do fuck all. I assume that they have been told to leave it. Why else has nothing been done in 4 years.
This latest bombshell puts the Government at the heart of a conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. I don't want MP's spending a fortune on an inquiry that stops every 3 months for a break. I want offices raided, files, documents, data sticks and anything else seized and I want people arrested.
And just to repeat. Yes, I believe the police are not taking action because they have been told not to.
For reference, I don't believe that Gareth Williams who worked for MI6 stepped fully into a Holdall, put it into a bath, padlocked it and then accidentally died. The coroner said he was unlawfully killed the police said it was an accident. I wonder who told them to say that.
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He put the holdall into the bath before getting in it...
 
stonerblue said:
He put the holdall into the bath before getting in it...
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:-)

Why not because the cops originally said he'd committed suicide despite the padlock being locked from the outside.
They (cough) 'investigated' this death for 3 years and still dispute what the coroner ruled. There was a brilliant documentary about this case. It is quite clear the police were led by the government. It is entirely believable that the police are taking no proper action in relation to the post office because the government have told them not to.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Is there any event which encapsulates our national decline better than this one? Grenfell was at least acted upon promptly and decisively.

It offends all norms of fairness, justice and decency.

It’s absolutely shameful what’s been allowed to happen with this scandal.
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The Birmingham Six / Guildford Four.
Hillsborough cover up.
West Midlands Serious Crime Squad
I'm sure there are more but these are just at the top of my head
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Is there any event which encapsulates our national decline better than this one? Grenfell was at least acted upon promptly and decisively.

It offends all norms of fairness, justice and decency.

It’s absolutely shameful what’s been allowed to happen with this scandal.
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There have been many national scandals, The contaminated blood being an obvious one but this, with the level of government interference has really hit home to many.
I remember being told years ago, 'it is better that 9 guilty men go free than one innocent man goes to jail'. This is the total opposite and that governments were complicit is what really destroys faith in justice.
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
The Birmingham Six / Guildford Four.
Hillsborough cover up.
West Midlands Serious Crime Squad
I'm sure there are more but these are just at the top of my head
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Read what I said again.

We have spoken before about your obsession with the ‘70s and ‘80s!

We weren’t in decline, or at least this precipitous decline in either of those decades. Our current decline was expressly my reference point.
 
Blue Mist said:
There have been many national scandals, The contaminated blood being an obvious one but this, with the level of government interference has really hit home to many.
I remember being told years ago, 'it is better that 9 guilty men go free than one innocent man goes to jail'. This is the total opposite and that governments were complicit is what really destroys faith in justice.
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That’s why they should just quash all the convictions. Maybe a few who were at it will get wrongly acquitted, but seriously?

The computer system that all of them were convicted by was flawed. Therefore all those convictions are unsafe. End of.

That serves the best interests of justice.
 
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