MUEN again and again

[oakiecokie]

He has not told me if he is a barmist or one of those dodgy muffinists yet though Oakie.
These are the important issues in life.

I think that SB would be a muffin man and MK and Co,barmists,mate.

wrong! :)

I cant believe SB has contradicted me !!! Last time I support the fucker !!

 

[Blue Punter]

This is a link to a thread on this forum from when the story first broke: <a class="postlink-local" href="http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=206666&p=4047951&hilit=david+may+35+years#p4047951" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">viewtopic.php?f=1&t=206666&p=4047951&hilit=david+may+35+years#p4047951</a>

And everything that SB has told us from his posts on this article have been shown to be correct.I rest my fucking case M`Lud !!! All the MEN have done is broken a story that was correct.

-- Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:26 pm --

As I said only asking, seeing that you are one of the main protagonists,in trying to prove that the MEN is talking bollocks,when they have indeed come forward with some evidence to support their claim that NOT all the claims against them can be proven.

-- Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:14 pm --



So basically you aint got a fooking clue but nevertheless you will try and support something which you aint certain about.
Mmmmmmmmmmm.Good job SB can keep on proving some people completely wrong and they aint got the wedding tackle to hold their hands up.It just fits nicely into another agenda by the MEN,as you certainly didn`t state that originally.

The poster above me said that the work experience story rung a bell. It did with me so I said so. SB hasnt proven me wrong over anything, so I don't know why youre trying to turn this into something it's not.

Starting to sound a bit paranoid to be honest.

Hahah.The fucking irony !!! I knew exactly what you meant and now SB has given proof you hide like most other people on here.Unbelievable Jeff,but hardly surprising !!!

Oakie, I think you're missing the point here. I said there was an inappropriate article (NOT 100% certain it was David May) that was withdrawn. Some junior member of staff copped the flak for it and the excuse given was a shortage of staff at the weekend.

I think we can all rest easy that it wasn't the David May article. Now you and Stuart can point score about Bank Holidays in February, but the article and ensuing criticism did exist, whether it be here, elsewhere or on the MEN comments website. My main point was that there was no editorial control.

Ideally I'd be able to post the story, but as I've pointed out, given a bit of time to research it, I'll retract it I cannot find it. The fact there's been other posters who have recollections of it shouldn't lead you to be so dismissive that it existed.

As a general question for SB, would it be possible that a junior member of staff would have posted a piece deemed inappropriate, due to there being a staff shortage at weekend?

 

[Eds]

Find the article you ran about 'our' date for a parade being poached had we have beaten Wigan in the FA Cup final. City were due to play away at Reading on May 14 and the rags had the parade on May 13 which your paper claimed we would have wanted had we won the parade. So even though we would have been at Reading on the Tuesday your paper and your colleague were adament that had we won the final we would have wanted that date. Even when I called and pointed out the fact that City wouldn't even be in Manchester on that Monday I was told in no uncertain terms that I was wrong and your paper was right. The fact that the headline was changed later that day kind of proved my point!

Here's the article to which you refer <a class="postlink" href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-united-parade-premier-league-2999147" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ue-2999147</a>

It doesn't say that United poached the City date. In fact it states that there had been no discussions between City and the council, and that if City did have a parade, it would probably have to be the following week, as City had games at Reading and home to Norwich in the week after the final.
If, as you say, the headline was changed, I can't prove or disprove that - I only have secondhand knowledge of that story, as I didn't write it, so can't vouch for any changes.

100% that the original article stated that they had stolen the date we would have wanted had we have won the final. As I say I knew for a fact that it would be impossible for us to have that date as we were staying down South as we were playing Reading on the Tuesday. The guy I spoke to asked me to prove everything I was saying and wasn't bright enough to understand that as we were playing Reading on Tueday night there is no way we would have had a parade on the Monday and therefore United couldn't have taken our preferred date. The headline and some body of the text was changed later that day when someone had obviously realised how stupid they had been, I appreciate you didn't write it etc but it is an example of a lazy piece of journalism getting through.

 

[steviemc]

With current newspapers there will always be a trade off between speed of story and reliability of information. That doesn't just mean that information may be incorrect, it may also appear in an unintended way, as copy editing cannot be done as rigorously as it was in the past. That's not to make an excuse for bad articles - I would gladly have more reliable news displayed correctly in a reasonable time, than a rushed copy with misinformation. As consumers we have little choice - most newspapers appear to be working to similar deadlines under similar conditions.

Regarding reporting bias, I currently get comments from rag mates complaining that they get slated nowadays and that we usually get an easier ride. If you feel that there is a bias then don't buy the newspaper. If you currently don't buy it, then you really shouldn't be worrying about it. One thing to remember is that if you try and exercise too much control over reporting, you end up with something more akin to a club magazine, or an advertising piece, rather than a newspaper column.

 

[chris85mcfc]

They wrote a story not long ago about early leavers at the Etihad

Thought that one was pretty spot on.

 

[The Flash]

I think this is the thread regarding the so called "work experience" chap - it wasn't it was someone temporarily covering the website for the full-time website guy: http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=285527&hilit=MUEN&start=120

I'd be more interested in wondering... why post the apology on a fan forum, when you admit to fucking up in the actual press? Apologizing to a relatively small audience in a forum is the easy, ineffective attempt at solving the problem.

The professional solution would be to remove the article, post the proper information (which in this case would be a rebuttal of the Daily Mail hack job) and an apology - or at least an acknowledgment of wrong-doing.

Perhaps Mr. Brennan could put the issue of the "MUEN" moniker to bed, by posting a few instances of his employer reporting slanderous, or patently false and damagingly misleading information about Manchester United. I'd love to see actual evidence from a news outlet.

For a start, this didn't go in the newspaper at all - it was up on the website overnight, piut there by someone temporarily standing in for the sports website fella (we have a skeleton staff on a Sunday), and was taken down as soon as I and the regular sports website lad became fully aware of it.
It wasn't "slanderous" (when written, it is libellous, "slanderous" is only word of mouth), nor patently false, nor was it damaging, in any way.
And, of course, we try not to publish things that are slanderous etc, about any club - as I said, this was an error, made by one individual working on his own, under pressure. To ask us to come up with instances of writing "slanderous" things about United is just stupid.
Why would we knowingly libel United, or City, or anyone, when to do so costs you money?
You seem to think it was done deliberately, as part of some stupid agenda - if that's the case, why would we take it down, just because a few Blues moaned about it.
Some people are just so busy trying to fit things to their ridiculous MUEN agenda, that they can't see the fact of the matter.

 

[oakiecokie]

This is a link to a thread on this forum from when the story first broke: <a class="postlink-local" href="http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=206666&p=4047951&hilit=david+may+35+years#p4047951" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">viewtopic.php?f=1&t=206666&p=4047951&hilit=david+may+35+years#p4047951</a>

And everything that SB has told us from his posts on this article have been shown to be correct.I rest my fucking case M`Lud !!! All the MEN have done is broken a story that was correct.

-- Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:26 pm --

The poster above me said that the work experience story rung a bell. It did with me so I said so. SB hasnt proven me wrong over anything, so I don't know why youre trying to turn this into something it's not.

Starting to sound a bit paranoid to be honest.

Hahah.The fucking irony !!! I knew exactly what you meant and now SB has given proof you hide like most other people on here.Unbelievable Jeff,but hardly surprising !!!

Oakie, I think you're missing the point here. I said there was an inappropriate article (NOT 100% certain it was David May) that was withdrawn. Some junior member of staff copped the flak for it and the excuse given was a shortage of staff at the weekend.

I think we can all rest easy that it wasn't the David May article. Now you and Stuart can point score about Bank Holidays in February, but the article and ensuing criticism did exist, whether it be here, elsewhere or on the MEN comments website. My main point was that there was no editorial control.

Ideally I'd be able to post the story, but as I've pointed out, given a bit of time to research it, I'll retract it I cannot find it. The fact there's been other posters who have recollections of it shouldn't lead you to be so dismissive that it existed.

As a general question for SB, would it be possible that a junior member of staff would have posted a piece deemed inappropriate, due to there being a staff shortage at weekend?

If we`re all being totally honest,don`t we all like to "points score" as its the nature of the beast when trying to "prove" one another is wrong etc.
The only reason I was being dismissive of said article was the fact that SB has on more than one occasion on this thread,proved certain people to be wrong and they have hardly stepped forward and offered an apology. I was trying to suggest that there is a major difference between a "work experience kid" and a "junior member of staff".
Wasn`t really entering into the debate ref Bank Holidays.<br /><br />-- Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:15 pm --<br /><br />

They wrote a story not long ago about early leavers at the Etihad

Thought that one was pretty spot on.

And even I did not support them over that,although it was more about "empty seats" and why the need for an expansion.

 

[chris85mcfc]

-- Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:15 pm --

They wrote a story not long ago about early leavers at the Etihad

Thought that one was pretty spot on.

And even I did not support them over that,although it was more about "empty seats" and why the need for an expansion.[/quote]

I was only on the wind up Oakie :)

I'd suggest if they did write this article then it was definitely wide of the mark.

 

[Anonymous]

<a class="postlink-local" href="http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=293332&hilit=Manchester+Evening+News&p=7277075&view=show#p7277075" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">viewtopic.php?f=1&t=293332&hilit=Manchester+Evening+News&p=7277075&view=show#p7277075</a>

Just for your information, I wrote the article not the picture captions. I have already made my feelings on the shoddy caption known to the sports editor

<a class="postlink-local" href="http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=293332&hilit=Manchester+Evening+News&start=100" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">viewtopic.php?f=1&t=293332&hilit=Manchester+Evening+News&start=100</a>

I don't think it's a great headline, but the website people need to get stuff up quickly. If you had to write a short headline which covered the main Manchester football events of that day, what would it be, out of interest?

Seems as though it's becoming a bit of a recurring theme.

Less haste, more speed.

 

[oakiecokie]

-- Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:15 pm --

They wrote a story not long ago about early leavers at the Etihad

Thought that one was pretty spot on.

And even I did not support them over that,although it was more about "empty seats" and why the need for an expansion.

I was only on the wind up Oakie :)

I'd suggest if they did write this article then it was definitely wide of the mark.[/quote]

They,especially SB did acknowledge that a big bollock had been dropped and steps had supposedly been discussed to ensure that shit like that was never written again.
However,the MEN are giving some wonderful negative coverage,as should be expected,ref Uniteds demise so far this season and I`m talking about people like Mike Keegan,Stuart Mathieson and Rob Dawson who many regard on here as dyed in the wool Rags.<br /><br />-- Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:25 pm --<br /><br />

http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=293332&hilit=Manchester+Evening+News&p=7277075&view=show#p7277075

Just for your information, I wrote the article not the picture captions. I have already made my feelings on the shoddy caption known to the sports editor

<a class="postlink-local" href="http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=293332&hilit=Manchester+Evening+News&start=100" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">viewtopic.php?f=1&t=293332&hilit=Manchester+Evening+News&start=100</a>

I don't think it's a great headline, but the website people need to get stuff up quickly. If you had to write a short headline which covered the main Manchester football events of that day, what would it be, out of interest?

Seems as though it's becoming a bit of a recurring theme.

Less haste, more speed.

A motto from your missus ? ;)