Nasri [Merged] continued.

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Cobwebcat said:
I've never known a buying club talk so openly about a potential signing, as City have about Nasri, and not get him.

The pressure on Cookie must be huge with this one.

Personally I think Nasri is the final piece in our jigsaw. I was asked at the end of last season, barring Real Madrid and Barca players, who would I most like to see at City and I went for Nasri. Not because he is the best player outside those clubs, but because I think he will make the biggest positive difference to our team.

I really think that if we have to pay the agents fees this once we will do it.
It's gone beyond that. Arsenal will be forced to play Nasri at Udinese and that will scupper the deal. Wenger never wanted to sell, and ironically his own teams weakness has strengthened his position. It was his baord that wanted to sell. And now mata may go to Chelsea so he can't be replaced.

Arsenal's problems have developed so quickly that they can no longer afford to sell him. This decision may not have been taken yet, but logically Arsenal must call the deal off
 
How many players have Arsenal lost this summer in transfers? Seems only Cesc, the other lad to Turkey and Denilson. They have brought in Cervinho, Jenkinson and Chamberlain so in terms of numbers their squad hasn't changed from this time last year when they set off like a house on fire. I just don't understand what has happened at their club to be honest.
 
dctid said:
blueinsa said:
Arsenal are in deep shit with injuries, suspensions and a lack of quality and the only thing holding this up is Arsenal waiting to get their replacements in imo.

Arsenal will be wanting to be seen to have done this deal on their terms and rightly so.

Patience is the key word.

would appear to be Nasri agents demanding 3 million in agents fees that is the problem nothing to do with Le Arse - they will have the same selection problems next week and most likely the week after - they need players in and too do that they need players out

The unknown is are Nasri agents deliberately being twats to slow the process in the hope others may come in or are they just greedy twats or are they deliberatly scuppering a deal so Nasri sees out his contract and gets pick of other teams next summer

We are busy seeing one of the once strongest teams in Europe being cherry picked for their best players and it doesn't sit nicely with many. They have players wanting away and their exit has to be stage managed as best as possible to try and minimise the damage although they are failing miserably on that front.

Of course the agents might well be trying it on and if so, they are playing a dangerous game as it seems clear that joining City has now become a once in a lifetime opportunity and if you miss out, you miss out for good.

Im still very confident that the deal is in place and will get done but as pointed out, his participation on Wednesday will surely be a deal breaker.
 
Rammyblues said:
How many players have Arsenal lost this summer in transfers? Seems only Cesc, the other lad to Turkey and Denilson. They have brought in Cervinho, Jenkinson and Chamberlain so in terms of numbers their squad hasn't changed from this time last year when they set off like a house on fire. I just don't understand what has happened at their club to be honest.
Self-belief is everything. And it's being undermined every week. They need a good win at Udinese. That may change things for them<br /><br />-- Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:08 pm --<br /><br />
blueinsa said:
dctid said:
blueinsa said:
Arsenal are in deep shit with injuries, suspensions and a lack of quality and the only thing holding this up is Arsenal waiting to get their replacements in imo.

Arsenal will be wanting to be seen to have done this deal on their terms and rightly so.

Patience is the key word.

would appear to be Nasri agents demanding 3 million in agents fees that is the problem nothing to do with Le Arse - they will have the same selection problems next week and most likely the week after - they need players in and too do that they need players out

The unknown is are Nasri agents deliberately being twats to slow the process in the hope others may come in or are they just greedy twats or are they deliberatly scuppering a deal so Nasri sees out his contract and gets pick of other teams next summer

We are busy seeing one of the once strongest teams in Europe being cherry picked for their best players and it doesn't sit nicely with many. They have players wanting away and their exit has to be stage managed as best as possible to try and minimise the damage although they are failing miserably on that front.

Of course the agents might well be trying it on and if so, they are playing a dangerous game as it seems clear that joining City has now become a once in a lifetime opportunity and if you miss out, you miss out for good.

Im still very confident that the deal is in place and will get done but as pointed out, his participation on Wednesday will surely be a deal breaker.
Exactly and Wenger will surely play him as he can't afford to lose. He made the same decision on Saturday v Liverpool.

There may have been problems with the agents, but the deal is in my view already unravelling. We'll see.
 
I don't understand why we are in for this guy. It looks like he prefers to play as a central AM, but as we saw yesterday he doesn't have the vision or the passing skills of Silva. If i look at our team i would invest money on a deep playmaker like Modric, Banega or Montolivo and a speedy winger like Lennon or Affelay.
 
Rammyblues said:
How many players have Arsenal lost this summer in transfers? Seems only Cesc, the other lad to Turkey and Denilson. They have brought in Cervinho, Jenkinson and Chamberlain so in terms of numbers their squad hasn't changed from this time last year when they set off like a house on fire. I just don't understand what has happened at their club to be honest.
rosicky, diaby and wilshere injured with song and gervinho suspended. then you have gibbs, traore, koscielny and djourou injured as well. So we had 5 midfielders injured for the Liverpool game which forced them to use Nasri, otherwise he would still have his cold like he did against newcastle. But right now with so many players out and the Udinese game so important, they have to make a quick decision.

The worst case for Arsenal is they dont play Nasri, they go out of the CL and nasri decides to see out his contract. so we are in a sh!tty position. So the people thinking Arsenal is holding this up, we have no interest in holding this deal up
 
On one hand Arsenal need to play him against Udinesi but whether this proves to be wise depends on the result. If they win then they gain 30m and hold onto a player who might be convinced to sign a new contract before next summer. If they lose though, and they might do even with Nasri in the team, then they lose upwards of 50m and will almost certainly lose Nasri next season (presuming they look like a wilting team the rest of the season).

Maybe the sensible thing is to sell Nasri and pocket 20m. Then play an ultra defensive team and pray for 0-0 midweek. Them gaining 30m, bring the total money available to spend to 80m+. Can you get 2 defenders and 2 midfielders and 1 striker for that? ;-) yep they are f@cked! :-)
 
Marvin said:
Cobwebcat said:
I've never known a buying club talk so openly about a potential signing, as City have about Nasri, and not get him.

The pressure on Cookie must be huge with this one.

Personally I think Nasri is the final piece in our jigsaw. I was asked at the end of last season, barring Real Madrid and Barca players, who would I most like to see at City and I went for Nasri. Not because he is the best player outside those clubs, but because I think he will make the biggest positive difference to our team.

I really think that if we have to pay the agents fees this once we will do it.
It's gone beyond that. Arsenal will be forced to play Nasri at Udinese and that will scupper the deal. Wenger never wanted to sell, and ironically his own teams weakness has strengthened his position. It was his baord that wanted to sell. And now mata may go to Chelsea so he can't be replaced.

Arsenal's problems have developed so quickly that they can no longer afford to sell him. This decision may not have been taken yet, but logically Arsenal must call the deal off

Do you know any of this as fact, or are you just speculating. We don't know anything, and mixed reports are coming from everywhere really. What has really annoyed me about this particular transfer is the amount of people on here who have been stating things as if they are fact, when in fact it's just guesswork on their behalf. The 'he will sign after serving his champions league ban' being the key one. There were clearly other reasons why he hadn't/hasn't singed, yet many people GUESSED that was the reason and spouted it on here as if it was gospel.

Until we know something more concrete, don't post with such a matter of fact attitude, when in reality, what is being posted is far from matter of fact.
 
Then play an ultra defensive team and pray for 0-0 midweek.


Arsenal and Wenger parking the bus, oh the irony of it all especially after the way they had a go at us last year, personally I don't think they know how to to be honest. :-)
 
Arsene said:
Rammyblues said:
How many players have Arsenal lost this summer in transfers? Seems only Cesc, the other lad to Turkey and Denilson. They have brought in Cervinho, Jenkinson and Chamberlain so in terms of numbers their squad hasn't changed from this time last year when they set off like a house on fire. I just don't understand what has happened at their club to be honest.
rosicky, diaby and wilshere injured with song and gervinho suspended. then you have gibbs, traore, koscielny and djourou injured as well. So we had 5 midfielders injured for the Liverpool game which forced them to use Nasri, otherwise he would still have his cold like he did against newcastle. But right now with so many players out and the Udinese game so important, they have to make a quick decision.

The worst case for Arsenal is they dont play Nasri, they go out of the CL and nasri decides to see out his contract. so we are in a sh!tty position. So the people thinking Arsenal is holding this up, we have no interest in holding this deal up
Djorou is a joke mate. Diaby, and Traore are not key players. Arshavin used to be, but what has happened to him? You are falling apart, and that is why Wenger has to keep Nasri as he is your best player
 
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