Nelson Mandela

Banned Tosspot said:
blueinsa said:
Banned Tosspot said:
And killed people cos of their colour.

3,500 white farmers murdered in cold blood since the ANC came to power and both Zimbabwe and South Africa now both net importers of food for increasing populations instead of providing food for the whole of Southern Africa.

Did i mention that the ANC and its military wing also murdered people in cold blood?
It's a sad case that some white folk have to call other white folk racist to make themselves look whiter than white if you parden the pun.

Mandela is a man they should dislike but he's black and that makes it OK for him to be racist and a murderer.

Actually I think it was the system of apartheid that made it totally justified for him to be a freedom fighter

Biko's way was better of course from a purely moral perspective but then look what happened to Biko.
 
Balti said:
Banned Tosspot said:
blueinsa said:
3,500 white farmers murdered in cold blood since the ANC came to power and both Zimbabwe and South Africa now both net importers of food for increasing populations instead of providing food for the whole of Southern Africa.

Did i mention that the ANC and its military wing also murdered people in cold blood?
It's a sad case that some white folk have to call other white folk racist to make themselves look whiter than white if you parden the pun.

Mandela is a man they should dislike but he's black and that makes it OK for him to be racist and a murderer.

Actually I think it was the system of apartheid that made it totally justified for him to be a freedom fighter

Biko's way was better of course from a purely moral perspective but then look what happened to Biko.
Remember, you're backing racism .... and murder.
 
Banned Tosspot said:
Balti said:
Banned Tosspot said:
It's a sad case that some white folk have to call other white folk racist to make themselves look whiter than white if you parden the pun.

Mandela is a man they should dislike but he's black and that makes it OK for him to be racist and a murderer.

Actually I think it was the system of apartheid that made it totally justified for him to be a freedom fighter

Biko's way was better of course from a purely moral perspective but then look what happened to Biko.
Remember, you're backing racism .... and murder.

only as a response to the state sponsored racism and murder that they faced

were the French/Polish Resistance etc also then merely murderers to be condemned by history?

or did their purpose and their circumstances perhaps justify their actions?
 
Balti said:
Banned Tosspot said:
Balti said:
Actually I think it was the system of apartheid that made it totally justified for him to be a freedom fighter

Biko's way was better of course from a purely moral perspective but then look what happened to Biko.
Remember, you're backing racism .... and murder.

only as a response to the state sponsored racism and murder that they faced

were the French/Polish Resistance etc also then merely murderers to be condemned by history?

or did their purpose and their circumstances perhaps justify their actions?

The 3,500 white farmers murdered since they came to power?

State sponsored terror of a race?
 
blueinsa said:
Balti said:
Banned Tosspot said:
Remember, you're backing racism .... and murder.

only as a response to the state sponsored racism and murder that they faced

were the French/Polish Resistance etc also then merely murderers to be condemned by history?

or did their purpose and their circumstances perhaps justify their actions?

The 3,500 white farmers murdered since they came to power?

State sponsored terror of a race?

the inhumanities of the apartheid era are well documented and obvious fact

your linking of the farm murders with Mandela and/or the state is not grounded in any facts that I can find

it is happening I agree and is disturbing and unacceptable.....but then crime and murder is rampant in south africa full stop and it is not only farmers who are attacked and killed and not only whites

the frightening crime and violence rates remain the great sadness about that stunningly beautiful country

driven more by the conditions of third world poverty that many black people in South Africa still endure rather than anything more sinister I'm afraid

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/southafrica/9716539/South-African-farmers-fearing-for-their-lives.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... lives.html</a>
 
Balti said:
blueinsa said:
Balti said:
only as a response to the state sponsored racism and murder that they faced

were the French/Polish Resistance etc also then merely murderers to be condemned by history?

or did their purpose and their circumstances perhaps justify their actions?

The 3,500 white farmers murdered since they came to power?

State sponsored terror of a race?

the inhumanities of the apartheid era are well documented and obvious fact

your linking of the farm murders with Mandela and/or the state is not grounded in any facts that I can find

it is happening I agree and is disturbing and unacceptable.....but then crime and murder is rampant in south africa full stop and it is not only farmers who are attacked and killed and not only whites

the frightening crime and violence rates remain the great sadness about that stunningly beautiful country

driven more by the conditions of third world poverty that many black people in South Africa still endure rather than anything more sinister I'm afraid

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/southafrica/9716539/South-African-farmers-fearing-for-their-lives.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... lives.html</a>

Driven by an ANC government that openly attacks whites for its failings still to this day and openly sings freedom songs titled, "Shoot the Boer" at every meeting they hold.

Corruption and nepotism is rife with a black political elite, happy to milk the system for all its worth whilst stirring up racial hatred to cover its backs.

Apartheid was an abhorrent system that rightfully had to end but trust me on this, racism is alive and well today in SA, just roles reversed and its certainly not the rainbow nation the BBC likes to portray.
 
Sheikh said:
blueinsa said:
Banned Tosspot said:
And killed people cos of their colour.

3,500 white farmers murdered in cold blood since the ANC came to power and both Zimbabwe and South Africa now both net importers of food for increasing populations instead of providing food for the whole of Southern Africa.

Did i mention that the ANC and its military wing also murdered people in cold blood?
It's a sad case that some white folk have to call other white folk racist to make themselves look whiter than white if you parden the pun.

Mandela is a man they should dislike but he's black and that makes it OK for him to be racist and a murderer.

I can see a merge coming on...
 
Here's my mate at Nelson Mandela Square in J'Burg. I sadly, didn't get a picture because i'm an idiot but it was a stunning place and insanely busy.

I took the picture, if that helps. I'm quite the photographer.
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