Netherlands v England - Wed 10th July, 20:00 | Euro 2024 Semi-Final

Match Result Prediction?


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Well day 26 in Germany has been something else, credit to the England boys great win and win is all you need in cup competitions, the best team don't always win them (see us real Madrid semi, man u final) shit happens. Just gone through Köln at 4am here, trains taking pisss in Dortmund tonight people getting vexxed, good job we won and reminds me of Istanbul how a win stops people from rioting on both occasions reverse result people lose it(understandably). We're all going to Berlin......
 
The other side of the coin is the FA Cup win against Man U in the treble season. We were the better side in that final and won. Spain are going into the final as favourites and they will not be as complacent as we were in the other final (saying that we did secure 4 in a row something no other Premier League team has achieved since its formation and over did it with the celebrations)
 
After four rubbish performances England come out on the front foot, firing on all cylinders. Foden is superb, even Rice played well. Despite this we go behind after eight minutes. Never mind, we get a ludicrous penalty awarded. Kane does the one thing he has managed all tournament and drills it in.
We keep on attacking (am I actually writing this?) and Phil has a shot cleared off the line and another rattles the post.
In the second half we run out of steam and the Dutch take control. Ah well, it was fun while it lasted……but wait, a miracle appears; Palmer plays a ball into the area and our centre forward collects and lashes it in at the far post. Where did he come from? Our CF is usually thirty yards behind the play having just ‘helped out’ the midfield by getting in the way. Oh, I see, Kane has gone off and it's Watkins who obliges.
WE ARE THROUGH TO THE FINAL and the waistcoat has done it again with his brilliant rope-a-dope tactics.
Then I stepped out of the shower and realised it was all a dream. I know that because I swear I saw Bellingham pass to Phil. Another glorious failure.
 
Well done Ollie Watkins on the goal , it won't be enough to get you a start over Kane though in the final. I also expect Tront to start as well, gotta get the red contingent represented fully in the final .
 
Best England performance i have seen in a very long time. Foden in the middle is the answer. He and Saka made things happen.
Jude was misfiring as he wanted to be a hero again, and he also is the new Henderson.
Also Kane dropping often in midfield helped with possession
 
England will win it as in all my years I’ve never seen a luck what they are having . In six games I hey have turned up in probably 90 mins total . Got one of the worst pen decisions I’ve seen go for them and won these gane they didn’t deserve to in the 95 min and another in the 90 . Got dominated by a Swiss team who hit the bar in extra time and should have won but somehow they are now once again winning he best team in the world again and Southgate could get a knighthood ha ha .
 
Spot on. Kane wouldn’t have scored that goal as he’d have still been fannying about 10 yards outside the box. We’ve been crying out for Watkins movement after about an hour in every single game
Almost the first time we had midfield possession after him coming on and he makes exactly the type of run that Phil or Palmer crave but which previously had been chronically lacking...
 
Best England performance i have seen in a very long time. Foden in the middle is the answer. He and Saka made things happen.
Jude was misfiring as he wanted to be a hero again, and he also is the new Henderson.
Also Kane dropping often in midfield helped with possession
He's not even that. At least Henderson works like a dog...
 
Koeman made the switches at HT to have more players in the middle, closing the gaps between their attack & midfield - that's what gave them momentum in the second half and we didn't became imbalanced due to adding a left footer on the left flank. Shaw in the final rather than Trippier makes much more sense than Yamal.
This and the fact we were playing the second with 9 men (Harry Kawol and the incredible disappearing 10) balanced the second out a lot.
Palmer on at least kept a creative mid on, and Watkins sub was exactly what was needed (much earlier, but still, was just enough in the end).
Sub Bellingham earlier next time if he's still ineffectual, for say, Gordon, and we might just have a chance.
 
Yeah but Foden never has anyone ahead of him to make the pass to.

He would feed Watkins all night because he actually makes runs. What forward pass can he make when Kane doesn't run?

There are so many times where Foden has the ball and looks forward to try and make passes into the box and nobody is there or there's no movement, so he has to play it back to Mainoo or somebody.

England would've made light work of the Dutch tonight in the first half if we had Watkins on.
This!
Not Gonna give Kane too much crap. He's a bit like the latter day cristiano ronaldo. Knows where the goal is, but in this setup, struggles to get into the spaces where he can find/make chances.
At least first half he gives us an extra midfielder and has some capacity (and inclination) to play like that (at the expense of sacrificing forward runs).
Could be the way for the final.
First half Kane to give us some semblmace of control as we learn the game, second after 60 Watkins, Toney ready if we are chasing and need to throw another fwd on.
 
Shaw would get roasted. That first half team would be fine for the final.

Trippier would get roasted and, like he did yesterday, be out of position and stunt the attack. Against Spain, we won't be able to build through the middle so we can't limit ourselves to only having 1 attacking flank
 
FWIW I wasn't being critical of Foden the player (he was the best player in the 1st half). I was critical of some of the things he did in the second half, specifically holding onto the ball for too long (he's learned that from Bellingham). Whether you're a City fan or not surely you can see he wasn't the same force in the 2nd half, his replacement came on, did make the pass early and it set up the winner.

And yes Rice had a shocker. He was very poor for most of the match.
Hmmm, Phil made the gorgeous chance down the right just before being subbed. It's clear those around him were esinple not up to the job rather than him being the problem.

Watkins on and you see an entirely different Emgland going forward.
 
This and the fact we were playing the second with 9 men (Harry Kawol and the incredible disappearing 10) balanced the second out a lot.
Palmer on at least kept a creative mid on, and Watkins sub was exactly what was needed (much earlier, but still, was just enough in the end).
Sub Bellingham earlier next time if he's still ineffectual, for say, Gordon, and we might just have a chance.

It would have been nice to see the subs staggered - Watkins on earlier so Foden gets to play with a runner
 

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