New North Stand Redevelopment/Configuration And Fans Wishes

[Falastur]

Would a new development to the north stand mean the end of us being able to walk all the way round the lower tier concourse?
One of the few things we have in our favour at the mo is pre match you can wander round to the other 3 stands to either talk to some friends or just have a change of view before going back to your own seat! When the stadium was built the club made a big deal of it being one full bowl.

Most probably you would no longer be able to access the North Stand unless you could reach the bottom and work your way up but if you wanted to reach another side, you could just go the long way around?

Of course, if they (eventually) did this at both ends, this ability would end, yes.

 

[Damocles]

Maybe we could get the FSF and their Safe Standing campaign involved in some sort of City campaign about the ground?

Is this feasible or will the council block it?

Imagine a new terraced Kippax with 25,000 blues in it?!

*power wanks*

 

[depps]

Maybe we could get the FSF and their Safe Standing campaign involved in some sort of City campaign about the ground?

Is this feasible or will the council block it?

Imagine a new terraced Kippax with 25,000 blues in it?!

*power wanks*

Safe Standing is probably inevitable eventually but this redevelopment will probably come too soon for it. However, the club should plan this new stand with easy convertibility to a safe standing area in mind. I would imagine that a 60,000 thousand seater will do us for the foreseeable future capacity wise unless safe standing comes in and reduces ticket prices so hopefully if that does happen we will be able to capitalise on it quickly

 

[Damocles]

Would a new development to the north stand mean the end of us being able to walk all the way round the lower tier concourse?
One of the few things we have in our favour at the mo is pre match you can wander round to the other 3 stands to either talk to some friends or just have a change of view before going back to your own seat! When the stadium was built the club made a big deal of it being one full bowl.

I would be orgasmicly happy, if they decided to not call it the North Stand, and renamed it the Kippax. We desperately need this link to our past, with the future globalisation of the club.
The way to create this, is to give it iconic features such as the Kippax and let us bloody put something on the coloured seats (you know, writing KIPPAX with white seats in the stand)

No, please.. Like many in the East Stand, i think of myself as being in the Kippax... the Kippax should always be a stand along the side of the pitch - rebranding the north stand the Kippax is a daft idea.
Give the North Stand another name, make the East Stand the Kippax in name, and yeah add writing to the seats.

I sit in the same spot that i used to sit at maine road, which is also the same spot i used to stand at maine road... so like many who stayed out in the same spot, i'm in the kippax... in all but name.

With all due respect, the East Stand is the Kippax in geography only. Unless you sit close to the away fans, there is ZERO atmosphere at all. I was actually told to sit down and stop singing by somebody in the East Stand.

You don't sit in the Kippax, you sit in the stand that is on the side of the pitch. The Kippax is more than a geography, it is a spiritual home for the City fans, and the East Stand is certainly not that. They would sully the name by attaching Kippax to that bag of wank.

As you can tell, I also sit in the East Stand.

 

[GStar]

I think we're as close to "safe standing" at Eastlands and the PL than we'll ever get, nobody will have the balls to bring it back... just incase.

I'd opt for the one tier "superstand" and i'd advertise it as the "New Kippax" in order to get fans who want to be vocal in there... fans sitting in that stand should know what they're going in there for, so being told to "sit down" shouldn't be an issue.

As long as we stand without incident, i'd hope the CoMS stewards would continue to allow us to do so.

 

[Ant-emilydesign]

 

[jrb]

Standing issues in the new North Stand.

Unfortunately you will always get fans who want to sit and fans that want to stand. So to resolve any problems both sets of fans have to be seperated. This can only be done in a single tiered stand by locating the standing/singnig fans at the back 1/3 rd of the stand and giving the other 2/3rds of the stand to fans who would rather sit and join in singing for a seated position or not at all in some cases. No?

However, I'm sure this would bring up health and safety issues, as well as PL issues regarding crowd saftey. This could be a problem for the club.

 

[Seosa]

Hang on, they're turning the NORTH Stand into a kop style stand, the NORTH stand? Are you fucking kidding me, i've seen more fucking atmosphere in a morgue for crying out bleeding loud!!!

 

[bluewigmcfc]

will they take the roof of and call it the new jean kelly stand???

 

[Jnr Kisby]

Hang on, they're turning the NORTH Stand into a kop style stand, the NORTH stand? Are you fucking kidding me, i've seen more fucking atmosphere in a morgue for crying out bleeding loud!!!

yes but if they did a kop style end the southstanders & block 110/111 will no doubt relocate.

 

[Seosa]

Hang on, they're turning the NORTH Stand into a kop style stand, the NORTH stand? Are you fucking kidding me, i've seen more fucking atmosphere in a morgue for crying out bleeding loud!!!

yes but if they did a kop style end the southstanders & block 110/111 will no doubt relocate.

I posted in another topic that I believe we should swap the away fans with the 110/111 section and make the entire south stand blue, and tell all the sitters to move elsewhere. We need all the noise in 1 stand, and i'd love to see the south stand become the new kippax

 

[GOULDYBOBS]

Kippax all the way!!!

 

[jrb]

Interesting PDF about the large stand at BD.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.iwi-associates.co.uk/downloads/sam_safe_standing_debate.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.iwi-associates.co.uk/downloa ... debate.pdf</a>

-- Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:45 pm --

Taken from the PDF.

The design of the upper and lower tiers is
very different. The upper tier features continuous
crush barriers with 4,500 tip-up seats. 9,000
standing places are sold in this tier and the fans
distribute themselves at will. Even so, the crowd
density is very low. There are also radial
stairways which are kept clear during the match.
The lower tier by contrast has staggered
crush barriers, no radial gangways at all and
only a single lateral gangway towards the front.
I was not comfortable with the design when
the stadium was empty because I could not see
how people would move when it was full. A
further issue was a gap in the radial fence
between Blocks 14 and 15 which allowed
uncontrolled crowd migration. However I saw
that these design issues were mitigated during
the match because the low crowd density
permitted some radial and lateral movement
even when the blocks were at full capacity.
The fold down seats mean no changes are
needed to the upper tier for all-seated e.g. UEFA
matches. In the lower tier, temporary seating
reduces the capacity of the whole Südtribune
from 25,000 to 11,500. Hockenjos explained
that the club charges the same 12 euros as for
standing and that the fans all stand up anyway
– especially towards the centre – making a
complete nonsense of the all-seating rules.
The front of the lower tier had a high pitch
perimeter fence. The key issue with such fences
is emergency egress. Although the Südtribune
is designed to be evacuated in eight minutes
without using the pitch, nevertheless additional
exit gates onto the pitch are also provided.
There is electronic advertising all around the
pitch perimeter but this moves if the exit gates
are opened. The fans had been allowed to tie banners along the fence and gates, but thesE banners had been cut into sections so as not to
cause any obstruction to the exit gates.

The following
Saturday I sat miserably in my seat at an
English ground, banned from smoking
(although I don’t); banned from drinking beer;
passively consuming another mediocre
performance in a largely silent crowd. I had
wasted my afternoon – and paid £28 for the
privilege.

 

[Lmarkham-blueblood]

we should have a really curved end like a roman amphitheatre, but with a 'quater-sphere' roof running onto the other rooves.
it may sound really odd but there is method in my madness, a single man could be heard throughout the whole 'amphitheatre' because of its unique structure and hasnt really been used to its full potential in the modern world. the vibrations from the epic noise will go through the ground and more importantly through the 'quatre-sphere' roof which will guide the vibrations through the roof which will make the whole stadium echo and vibrate

i am useless on photoshop so can someone try this if they have enough time?


amphitheatre

'quater-sphere' (ignore the text and stuff i got it of google images ;))

THIS WILL WORK!!