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[Dodge]

Look, nothing is going to change or the media are not going to back City by calling them out

But it's a great way to wake everybody up at City and use it as a positive mental attitude to fire us up.
It's one of the lessons we learnt and now this rebuild and the players need to understand we have to take the referee and match officials out of the game by taking our chances,

We had 4 or 5 great chances to score, taking 2 of them would have won us the game, even with the dodgy offside goal
It's time to stop the moaning, it's time to take control of the games away from the match officials

100% get what you're saying and "circling the wagons" has won us silverware before. But, why the hell should we? Our rivals go on the pitch in the knowledge that they will get the 50/50 decisions In their favour. We go on the pitch trying to circumvent the officials, negotiating a path through a minefield of unfathomable decisions and interpretations of the LOTG that fly in the face of fairness.

Our players have suffered this for years. They know its not just about skill, technique or tactics. The psychological effect of this cannot be underestimated.

You can pretty much guarantee the following pattern for every single PL game for Manchester City FC:

* We will be penalised for the slightest transgression.
* We will be flagged early for marginal offside calls, whilst opposition marginal offsides will be allowed to play out and be decided by VAR.
* The threshold for penalty claims will be raised for us and lowered for the opposition.
* Players will be cautioned for barely bookable offences.
* Team fouling will be ignored for our opposition.
* Persistent individual opposition fouling will be allowed without caution thereby taking out any risk of a 2nd yellow.
* Key City players will be booked at the earliest opportunity thereby increasing the risk of a second yellow.
* Time wasting will be ignored for the opposition but be dealt with by a caution for our players (see the barely believable stats for City GK bookings compared to opponent GK cautions).
* Additional time will be applied by a multiple of 2 if we're winning a game, divided by 2 if we're chasing a game.
* Referees will be positioning themselves in our passing lanes.
* VAR will continue to look for reasons to disallow a City goal, whilst looking for ways to allow an opposition goal.
* Impeding of our GK will be allowed for any set piece.
* Tactical breaks will be allowed whenever an oppo GK decides to feign injury at the instruction of the bench.
* Dubious "advantage" plays will be implemented for City despite no advantage.
* Clear and obvious "advantage" plays for City will be pulled back for the offence to allow our oppo to regroup.
* Play will be stopped to allow oppo players to tie their laces.
* Dissent and ref crowding will be allowed for our oppo but punishable by caution for ours.
* After any City VAR decision 10 minutes will be allocated to allow the VAR team time to manipulate any AI images, adjust camera angles, confer with the PL to massage the PIGMOL statement and set the narrative with the broadcasters.

How many times have we heard the term fine margins? Well, if the fine margins are rigged by officialdom, those small percentages decide outcomes and titles, despite world class coaching and world class players.

In rugby union, the appointed referee is analysed, his decision making patterns studied and his interpretation of the rules communicated to the players as part of any game preparation. The TMO process however is transparent, the process shown live in the stadium in real time and decisions are accepted, rarely deemed skewed in the favour of one team.

Compare and contrast the VAR process we get in our national sport.

Institutionalised at PIGMOL, aided and abetted by the PL, and normalised by the likes of Sly, Nonce TV (Salford) Ltd and the Redtop media cartel.

Go fuck yourselves.

Thanks for listening.

 

[ancoats]

There will be somebody along to tell you that you are paranoid soon.

Like night following day !

We, WELL, I know football is a funny old game, one game can change many people's views for the rest of the season
But Manchester City are different, we never say or think the impossible is beyond us

 

[69FACUPfinal]

Far worse than the Van Dick decision by a country fucking mile.

And not a positive supportive peep in the usual biased msm.

Why should Pep be saying he apologised to the camera man on Saturday? All the other managers kick off about reffing injustices, why are we not allowed to?

He was on a roll today in his presser, came out swinging.

Another worry for me that continues is that we are not reliably clinical. I hope Saturday was a wake up call to the entire team to find their shooting boots.

 

[69FACUPfinal]

VAR was introduced in 2019/20 season and has gradually got worse and is not fit for purpose.
Football needs to look at Rugby Union which use the TMO which works and makes 99% of the decisions right, how five or six giants on the ball putting the ball down on the line they always seem to have the right camera angles. Both linesman support the referee and are given an opinion, the clocks stops so no time wasting.
We need to look at stopping the clock when these so called professional Footballer's feign injury, maybe the player will think twice or even the player is of the pitch for 3/4 minutes.
Back to the game the Foden miss before half time changes the game, second half we looked second best.
The blatant cheating is there for all to see by the officials and really needs calling out.
I would suggest the official's who are well paid need to be in front of the camera as with the managers after the game, they might start to do the job they are paid for as we keep saying the best league in the world with the worst set of comedians with a whistle and two flags.
We need to win the 5/6 games and start with players in form starting with Leeds.

And which team won ( benefitted) that season?? Rhetorical question because we all know the answer. The covid champions.

They tried to do us over the previous season 98 pts beats 97 points. As it was we were off point in 2019, but it started by disallowing a perfectly good Gabby J goal at home v Spuds early doors which we meant we dropped 2 points immediately and put Dips on front foot. Var responsibile for that disallowance.

Nobody anywhere will ever convince me that VAR isn't fixed and is used to benefit certain teams, match outcomes and satisfy the SE Asian betting markets.

 

[69FACUPfinal]

100% get what you're saying and "circling the wagons" has won us silverware before. But, why the hell should we? Our rivals go on the pitch in the knowledge that they will get the 50/50 decisions In their favour. We go on the pitch trying to circumvent the officials, negotiating a path through a minefield of unfathomable decisions and interpretations of the LOTG that fly in the face of fairness.

Our players have suffered this for years. They know its not just about skill, technique or tactics. The psychological effect of this cannot be underestimated.

You can pretty much guarantee the following pattern for every single PL game for Manchester City FC:

* We will be penalised for the slightest transgression.
* We will be flagged early for marginal offside calls, whilst opposition marginal offsides will be allowed to play out and be decided by VAR.
* The threshold for penalty claims will be raised for us and lowered for the opposition.
* Players will be cautioned for barely bookable offences.
* Team fouling will be ignored for our opposition.
* Persistent individual opposition fouling will be allowed without caution thereby taking out any risk of a 2nd yellow.
* Key City players will be booked at the earliest opportunity thereby increasing the risk of a second yellow.
* Time wasting will be ignored for the opposition but be dealt with by a caution for our players (see the barely believable stats for City GK bookings compared to opponent GK cautions).
* Additional time will be applied by a multiple of 2 if we're winning a game, divided by 2 if we're chasing a game.
* Referees will be positioning themselves in our passing lanes.
* VAR will continue to look for reasons to disallow a City goal, whilst looking for ways to allow an opposition goal.
* Impeding of our GK will be allowed for any set piece.
* Tactical breaks will be allowed whenever an oppo GK decides to feign injury at the instruction of the bench.
* Dubious "advantage" plays will be implemented for City despite no advantage.
* Clear and obvious "advantage" plays for City will be pulled back for the offence to allow our oppo to regroup.
* Play will be stopped to allow oppo players to tie their laces.
* Dissent and ref crowding will be allowed for our oppo but punishable by caution for ours.
* After any City VAR decision 10 minutes will be allocated to allow the VAR team time to manipulate any AI images, adjust camera angles, confer with the PL to massage the PIGMOL statement and set the narrative with the broadcasters.

How many times have we heard the term fine margins? Well, if the fine margins are rigged by officialdom, those small percentages decide outcomes and titles, despite world class coaching and world class players.

In rugby union, the appointed referee is analysed, his decision making patterns studied and his interpretation of the rules communicated to the players as part of any game preparation. The TMO process however is transparent, the process shown live in the stadium in real time and decisions are accepted, rarely deemed skewed in the favour of one team.

Compare and contrast the VAR process we get in our national sport.

Institutionalised at PIGMOL, aided and abetted by the PL, and normalised by the likes of Sly, Nonce TV (Salford) Ltd and the Redtop media cartel.

Go fuck yourselves.

Thanks for listening.

Cap doffed. All of that x 100%.

I agree with previous poster that the travesty on Saturday may focus the team, and infact posted similar. Bit I am totally in agreement with every word of your post. It must be demoralising at times for the players and I wish to god the club would start to kick up a fuss. Pigmob get away with far too much to benefit certain clubs and betting markets.

It's not fair on supporters either, we are being cheated.

 

[1961_vintage]

It's not fair on supporters either, we are being cheated.

High time the "turn-the-other cheek" strategy was ditched, the Marquess of Queensberry Rules binned, and we go full-on MMA with the wankers.

Until then, nothing will change.

 

[eyalluvitt]

Think MC got away with one ederson on odegaard few years back? You walked league iirc Rodri late winner that day.

I'm just calling as I see, Kovavic on Odegaard game Arsenal won straight red couple of seasons ago high and over the top pf the ball, horrendous challenge, late and reckless. Not given, blatant red, mosy of you probably say no?

Alf produced Erling, so my Leeds get out anyway!!

I was talking specifically about the double jeopardy of having a shot at goal and also getting a pen for being fouled afterwards.

 

[ancoats]

And not a positive supportive peep in the usual biased msm.

Why should Pep be saying he apologised to the camera man on Saturday? All the other managers kick off about reffing injustices, why are we not allowed to?

He was on a roll today in his presser, came out swinging.

Another worry for me that continues is that we are not reliably clinical. I hope Saturday was a wake up call to the entire team to find their shooting boots.

It has to be the wake-up call Pep uses; the players have to start converting more of the chances and take the match officials out of the game,

We are very close to being a very good team and the little things will click and away we go. Rodri is a big miss, but i don't think we hang our hats on him coming back and being the old Rodri, that needs a good 2 to 3 months game time and it maybe next season until we have Rodri back

 

[ancoats]

High time the "turn-the-other cheek" strategy was ditched, the Marquess of Queensberry Rules binned, and we go full-on MMA with the wankers.

Until then, nothing will change.

You see, that's what they want ? Once they get into your head and you lose it, they have you
Never show pain, just smile. We have to be better than them and take them out of the game like we used to