Newcastle United Thread - 2021/22

[Mr Kobayashi]

Not sure why you are so hung up on this, but I would say that is business as usual. All organisations use PR firms if they have any sense.

So you don't believe that it has anything to do with them losing deals as a result of blowback from consulate incident?

 

[halfcenturyup]

The Glazers have not expressed an intention to sell. Plausible deniability goes out of the window if you spend double the value of the asset.

If purpose of owning the club is reputation management, would it be good for their reputation to be seen paying a hugely inflated figure?

It's called goodwill, and I am sure the Glazers would get the hell out for the right price. Do you honestly think anyone would raise an eyebrow if United was bought for a large fee? Who? PIF's shareholders (yes, I know)? The press? Gary fucking Neville?

Maybe Liverpool would ask to see the losing bid ....

Anyway, bedtime. Up again in the middle of the night to watch the match.

 

[halfcenturyup]

So you don't believe that it has anything to do with them losing deals as a result of blowback from consulate incident?

I didn't say that, but I doubt they lost too much sleep over it. How long did it take to get back to business as usual? But again, when there is an issue, good PR and, especially in the US, lobbying, is a valid business response.

And again, I don't think the response would be - we have a problem, better go buy a football club. Abu Dhabi has had no problems with that, after all.

I suspect there is more to it. And I am guessing geo-politics.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Believe you me, if they'd bought the Rags I wouldn't have been happy but only because they might've become more of a threat to us than they are under the Glazers. I most certainly wouldn't have been spouting sanctimonious bullshit about human rights abuses though. Basically it's none of my fucking business who owns football clubs other than the one I support. And it's none of yours either.

Fair enough that's your view but then don't express a view at all on Newcastle then. Why post in this thread?

Or this thread just a vehicle for a section of City fans long conflict with liberal newspaper journalists?

How silly of me to get involved when the original post called out the hypocrisy of Newcastle fans reporting a non-criminal banner (via social media) to the police for campaigning against a majority owner's tangible connection to human rights abuses and limits on freedom of expression.

 

[chesterbells]

Sportwashing is a made up word to allow lying fuckwits to sound credible. Every single person is guilty of mobile phone washing, clothes washing(well apart from the wife), oil washing, car washing etc. It is the biggest hypocritical shit iv heard in a long time.

People argue on Twitter about human rights using a device made from countries with…you guessed it,awful human rights.

It is a racket.

Excellent post. Hypocrisy and whataboutery swirl around this topic like an immovable fog.

 

[Protein Junkie]

5 doesn’t go into 4.

But United have finished outside that 4, five times, in the last nine years; Liverpool have finished outside that 4, six times in the last eleven years; Chelsea have finished outside that 4, three times in the last nine years…

City have finished outside that 4, ZERO times, in the last eleven years; we have only finished outside the Top 2, twice, in the last ten years.

We’ve done that because we are the best run club.

Liverpool aren’t particularly well run, they’ve just got a great manager who’s been able to invest in the team in one go to build a good team once, and their board don’t invest in the team anymore. By next Summer, every one of their best players will be over 30, and they have no real strength in depth or succession plan for these players. That’s poor from them considering they have earnt £1.45bn in the last three years. Where the fuck the money goes at Liverpool is a mystery.

United are terribly ran. There are a dozen clubs better run than United. They’ve got no plan at all on the football side of things.

City and Chelsea are much better run than those two. That’s why you’ll get City and Chelsea fans welcoming new challenges from clubs like Newcastle being taken over and fans of Liverpool and United crying about it.

And we don’t yet know how well run Newcastle will be. They might not be particularly well run. They might make a lot of mistakes. There could be another club who does better than them. Everton could move to their new ground and attract more investment and do better than Newcastle. Having money is no guarantee of anything, QPR have the fourth biggest backers behind them in English football and they’re nowhere, SheffUtd have Saudi backers and they’re nowhere.

Great post

 

[mac]

I'm sure not to many are bothered who the fuck owns our club or other clubs. Just jealous fans.. I couldn't care less,have enough to deal with .

 

[malg]

Any news on a manager for them yet?

 

[M18CTID]

Fair enough that's your view but then don't express a view at all on Newcastle then. Why post in this thread?

Or this thread just a vehicle for a section of City fans long conflict with liberal newspaper journalists?

How silly of me to get involved when the original post called out the hypocrisy of Newcastle fans reporting a non-criminal banner (via social media) to the police for campaigning against a majority owner's tangible connection to human rights abuses and limits on freedom of expression.

You got that wrong again. We’re all entitled to an opinion on it but we’re not moral arbiters who have the jurisdiction to decide who should and shouldn’t own football clubs. That responsibility lies with the Premier League but they’d have looked a little silly if they blocked this takeover when you consider that successive UK governments - both Conservative and Labour - have welcomed Saudi investment into the country with open arms, along with many other Western governments.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

You got that wrong again. We’re all entitled to an opinion on it but we’re not moral arbiters who have the jurisdiction to decide who should and shouldn’t own football clubs. That responsibility lies with the Premier League but they’d have looked a little silly if they blocked this takeover when you consider that successive UK governments - both Conservative and Labour - have welcomed Saudi investment into the country with open arms, along with many other Western governments.

Yes I think that's the point the Palace fans were making, the Premier league's test is not fit for purpose. I'm not sure they were saying they should have a role on the board that makes such decisions.

Have they changed it since Portsmouth were bought by a fraudster who went to prison for stealing the money (that he bought the club with)?

Successive governments who have turned a blind eye to bribery allegations and even shut them down "in the interests of national security".