Newcastle United Thread - 2021/22

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The perfect fumble said:
To understand the shit we get and the tsunami of turds heading down the Tyne it's important to understand where it's coming from.

Politics in this country has two wings, right and soft right, capitalism is the only form of economic system permissible and Western values are universal human rights. Countries are judged along a sliding scale of how like us they are. These beliefs are not a point of contention between Starmer and Johnson, or the Guardian and the Daily Telegraph.

In this reality the only way to temper the excesses of capitalism or human rights abuses, be it at Facebook or Saudi Arabia and its Public Investment Fund, is to exert pressure for change not as workers (that smacks of evil socialism) but as consumers.

At state to state level this can lead to economic sanctions, or with big businesses heavy fines. The man and woman on the street is expected as a consumer to respond, by taking their custom elsewhere and condemnation and much tut tutting follows if they don't.

Seems the soft right have taken a leaf out of a tatty copy of the old left's playbook, it might look different, what with the internet and 24/7 TV, but the similarities are there for all to see.

Older Bluemooners will remember this....

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And that is why the Geordies must be shamed for their continued support for Newcastle United
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That’s some rod you’ve got there.
 
After this 3rd place player of Newcastle would straight on the blower to Mancini tell him you have billion to spend in the next 3 years do you want the job?!
 
mexico1970 said:
And so it begins.

This is going to test the mettle of those hardy Geordies, the abuse aimed at their club from the red media is going to be quite simply epic.
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Oh yes and the Geordies are ill prepared for it. The Toon army might take this as an insult, it's not, because all football fans are a bit naive, but from what I've seen and heard they're a bit less street savvy than Mancunians and they're accustomed in their one team town to being seen as salt of the earth, hard done by, downtrodden but plucky and loyal.

Well that ends now.
 
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The perfect fumble said:
Oh yes and the Geordies are ill prepared for it. The Toon army might take this as an insult, it's not, because all football fans are a bit naive, but from what I've seen and heard they're a bit less street savvy than Mancunians and they're accustomed in their one team town to being seen as salt of the earth, hard done by, downtrodden, but plucky and loyal.

Well that ends now.
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Their next game will get people watching them wanting them to get beat, the plucky underdog tag cast to one side and now effectively they are the enemy.

My Son In Law has already told me he's sick of it all and he's only a week in to this buy out, you're right they may not take it as well as we did and may not ride the storm with the same amount of panache.
 
StillBluessinceHydeRoad said:
I think your first paragraph is almost certainly spot on but your second is vitally important. I'm sure the cartel are panic stricken at the mere thought of this takeover and having nightmares at the admiration of City in Ms Staveley's statements. They may well be forced to realise that the law in the United Kingdom does give protection to those trying to compete and doesn't see things through the protectionist eyes of US capitalism. I am really eager to hear the ruling we are promised in January because it may end this nonsense about City being a "state owned club" once and for all by making a clear distinction between ownership and control. Sheikh Mansour may be deputy PM of UAE but to say that the government of the UAE or Abu Dhabi controls City is the same as arguing that McMillans publishers were run by the UK government when Harold was PM in the late 1950s. I suspect that PL has been found to be acting in an anti-competitive manner - but what the detail is may be very interesting. What is it that scared PL so much that they caved in without even warning the cartel?!
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And, remember, Mansour is not a member of the government (which is the Exec Council) despite his title. He is more a very senior civil servant. Keep it quiet, though, as Khaldoon is a member of the Council.(Abu Dhabi).
 
With our owner have strategic alliance with Saudis in Middle East, surely we are not at odds with each other in background?

I hope that was case, because we need allies not a friends mind you. But an allies against cartel in football that seemingly trying to crush us ever since we rise from bottom.
 
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Vialli98 said:
Every market needs to be regulated in one way or another. I don't know if FFP was the right or fair way to do that, but the idea that transfer fees and wages can just keep ballooning without measures to control it is just bonkers to me.
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Agreed but it is impossible to take any organisation seriously if they have rules which prevent investment but allow debts to run out of control. Much as I am enjoying it as a City fan, what the Glazers have done at United is scandalous. They have not invested any of their own money nor have they done anything for the local community yet they have been feted by the PL for years and were even allowed to vet the appointment of Richard Masters. That is just a corrupt system as far as I am concerned and if big money from our owner and the Saudis helps to destroy that system then I am all for it.
 
Vialli98 said:
Not sure. A wage cap of some sorts maybe, then introduce some kind of luxury tax as they have in American sports. Introduce some kind of penalty if clubs go over the percentage they're allowed to allocate to wages that season. I don't know. I'm no expert in finance regulations. I just think something has to give.
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The luxury tax is a decent concept as long as the money is ringfenced for grassroot sports or local community investment and is not siphoned into the back pockets of the crooks at UEFA. I don't think wage caps ever work properly because they are so easily circumvented.
 
waspish said:
So 3 years Everton have spent what is it 400m? And Newcastle are at a lower level and once you spend that money if turnover isn’t spring 400m plus your in the shit with ffp like Everton were this summer just look who they got a loan and a 1.5m player! There are just to many rich owners in the league for them to make it in the next 5 years maybe 10 years if everything goes to plan.
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Nice to see someone else actually understands it.
 
dad1971 said:
My thoughts are Newcastle fans are proper bell ends. Years they have said how we are everything wrong with modern football. Oil club etc etc. Now they have rubbed the genie lamp and their morals seem to have vanished !
I say fuk them. Hope they get relegated and their owners die doing keepie uppies with Michael Knighton.
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halfcenturyup said:
It's intriguing but something seems to have made the PL shit their pants.

Better.
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Perhaps there is some dirt to come out on the Red clubs which the PL are nervous about or perhaps they just realised it would be absurd to reject investment from the Saudis who are one of the biggest existing investors in the UK and are also our strongest allies in the conflict against Islamic terrorism and Russian expansionism. Without investment from China and the Middle East the UK economy (certainly in London) would collapse. We can't afford to be too picky about who we choose as friends these days.
 
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Magicpole said:
Every club feeling anxious about FFP, should move to Scotand. Rangers havent complied for ten years, of operating with a loss funded by soft loans and nothing happens to them. You might need to change your name to Rangers though. If you go into a meeting with the SFA, just belt out the Sash and you will be fine.
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Might as well be Rangers.
 
ganganvince said:
You need to start at that level who are happy to come for the money to get the club into a position of challenging for trophies before the top class players will come.
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i don't think you get that time anymore and the gap between the top 4 and top 6 is set in stone and would take some spending and time to make the jump from where newcastle are at right now. also FFP was not the case when the city owners started so we had a free run at it before the rules changed

the trouble i see with newcastle is the transfer window and prices they are going to have to pay for players
we are talking over £60million for bang average players and £100million for everybody english ?
so its going to add up pretty quick and like i said what do newcastle want run of the mill players to build a team or greedy so called superstar players for a statement
 
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