NHS Pay Award,letter to Johnson from my union,please sign if you can

[jacko74]

The widening disparity between private and public sector pay continues to grow. Not even mentioning pensions.

Exactly.

There was a time when public sector work meant very 'relaxed' working practices, cushy T&C's, ridiculously generous pensions, but comparatively low pay... these days they've still got the 'relaxed' attitude toward work, the cushy T&C's and generous pensions but their pay is now well in line with, if not higher than, comparable roles in the private sector.

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

Every time I've had to see a doctor or nurse they have always been there for me, professional and caring. I'm ever so grateful for our wonderful NHS.

Signed.

 

[Quad]

Exactly.

There was a time when public sector work meant very 'relaxed' working practices, cushy T&C's, ridiculously generous pensions, but comparatively low pay... these days they've still got the 'relaxed' attitude toward work, the cushy T&C's and generous pensions but their pay is now well in line with, if not higher than, comparable roles in the private sector.

My sister in law is nhs her pension is unbelievable her sick time is unbelievable, she got a day off for working I’m sure once everything is factored in it’s a good crack

 

[Quad]

my mrs is an hca ,health care assistant,when the pandemic started last march she had no chioce and was relocated to ICU,she was then on band 2 but not at the top.of it,her salary £18005,which equates to £9.20 per hour,37.5 hrs per week

she is a immigrant,BAME too
she had to.do.all the shitty jobs within itu,keeping machines going,turning people.over,talking to them,holding their hand,dealing with crying relatives over skype etc cleaning patients

she slept apart from me for 3 months initially until finally in June last year when she saw people partying over VE Day,,,it disgusted her after the sacreficies she was making

all that for £9.20

it makes my cry

Honestly why didn’t she get a new job as it’s pretty crap conditions and risk for that money

 

[blue44]

Honestly why didn’t she get a new job as it’s pretty crap conditions and risk for that money

because she has her own dignity
she is a buddhist and they have a whole different mindset
i love her just the way she is and respect what she did during this pandemic,duty for her is an honour not a chore

 

[Mike Brock]

Exactly.

There was a time when public sector work meant very 'relaxed' working practices, cushy T&C's, ridiculously generous pensions, but comparatively low pay... these days they've still got the 'relaxed' attitude toward work, the cushy T&C's and generous pensions but their pay is now well in line with, if not higher than, comparable roles in the private sector.

Define relaxed?

 

[leithblue]

Exactly.

There was a time when public sector work meant very 'relaxed' working practices, cushy T&C's, ridiculously generous pensions, but comparatively low pay... these days they've still got the 'relaxed' attitude toward work, the cushy T&C's and generous pensions but their pay is now well in line with, if not higher than, comparable roles in the private sector.

So, do you work for the Daily Mail full time or just gaze lovingly at it all day? What a load of prime gammon horsesh@t you’ve just come out with.

I was a Director at one of the big 4 advisory firms until about 5 years ago I realised the world is not a better place for me going to work so joined the civil service in a senior role. My salary is around 30% of what it used to be (and I’m senior civil service) and the pension benefits are the low end of average. In my department the standard is around 50 hours a week, we don’t get overtime. Over covid and brexit that pushed up over 80 for many of us. But the vast majority of us are happy to do it as there are millions of people in the U.K. that depend on us. There’s been no pay increase for over 10 years and so with the NIC increase it’s actually a pay cut. We’ve delivered countless projects, many of them overnight and weekends as this government flounders around, getting conflicting messages from different government departments as they get increasingly staffed by friends of friends that make it up as they go along.

I’d never go back to the private sector because I like being able to sleep at night and that’s worth more than a salary - but if you think that the public sector is a blanket easy option with early retirement then you’re breathtakingly misinformed.

 

[BlueMedic]

And you can fuck off as well. Doctors and nurses earn fantastic money compared to most, why do they need more? Public finances are fucked for decades to come and we as a country can't carry on like this. Tell me who takes a pay cut to finance another pay rise for doctors who already earn six figure salaries. Muppet.

Just to add some accuracy to this point, doctors salaries are publicly available, here's the link: https://www.bma.org.uk/pay-and-cont...ales/pay-scales-for-junior-doctors-in-england.

Summary:
Y1 £29k
Y2 £33k
Y3 £39k
Y4 £39k
Y5 £50k
Y6 £50k
Y7 £50k
Y8 £53k
Y9 £53k
Y10 £53k

Consultant wages: £82k starting, rising to £110k after 19 years of being a consultant.
Salaried GP: £60-91k (non-salaried GP's will have a wider range of ranges).

These numbers are base salaries, if you work further hours out of hours you're earning will naturally be higher.

And to add a little context, prior to Y1 (£29k) you will go to university for 5 years(+) and if taking student loan will end up with ~£70k debt (which with interest will actually increase every year as you don't earn enough to out-pay the interest).

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

And you can fuck off as well. Doctors and nurses earn fantastic money compared to most, why do they need more? Public finances are fucked for decades to come and we as a country can't carry on like this. Tell me who takes a pay cut to finance another pay rise for doctors who already earn six figure salaries. Muppet.

You have been lied to. If governments spend less, households and private sector have to take up the slack, often by taking on more debt or demand for goods and services declines/colapses.

We have literally had the UK government paying millions of people employed in the private sector not to work for the last 15 months.

The UK government has the ability to create money at the bank of England to lend to itself.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Just to add some accuracy to this point, doctors salaries are publicly available, here's the link: https://www.bma.org.uk/pay-and-cont...ales/pay-scales-for-junior-doctors-in-england.

Summary:
Y1 £29k
Y2 £33k
Y3 £39k
Y4 £39k
Y5 £50k
Y6 £50k
Y7 £50k
Y8 £53k
Y9 £53k
Y10 £53k

Consultant wages: £82k starting, rising to £110k after 19 years of being a consultant.
Salaried GP: £60-91k (non-salaried GP's will have a wider range of ranges).

These numbers are base salaries, if you work further hours out of hours you're earning will naturally be higher.

And to add a little context, prior to Y1 (£29k) you will go to university for 5 years(+) and if taking student loan will end up with ~£70k debt (which with interest will actually increase every year as you don't earn enough to out-pay the interest).

GPs also get bonuses for jabs, bonuses for this bonuses for that, paid over time, ash cash as they call signing off cremations.
Basically you ask a GP to fart they’ll want extra money for it.